- 2017-08-21 at 6:05 AM#574649+17
How is, was, or will be your life’s natural turning point the 30 year old man?
For starters, my father told me to watch my Jewish friend and business partner when he turns 30, he said he had a Jewish friend that when he hit 30 it was like a light went off in his head and within a year he was into bottling packaging, and marketing goods, as kids we were putting together vinyl repair kits in one of his schemes.
Back to my friend that turned 30. He took off and abandoned all his friends for a life in the sticks with his newlywed, he dissolved most his life long friendships, our business, and took allot of people for a ride over a proverbial cliff by dissolving all his commitments, taking the money and running, everyone that knew him got burned for what he could burn them, including myself on an expensive piece of equipment he held the receipt on and threatened police action if I tried to seize it for collateral while he was burning everyone else. The kinda s~~~ people catch a beating for, and he got away unscathed but karma was sure to follow!
Last I heard about him his wife became a cougar and started club hopping and f~~~ing like a teenager after 20 years of marriage, he got the kids, the house, and from what I gather just about everything, I’m guessing she really s~~~-the-bed and became all f~~~ed up. He has some gold held in customs in some foreign ass backwards country and he can’t afford the tariff or tax to export it, so he’s turned to some of his old friends that politely told him to go f~~~ himself! I wouldn’t give the SOB a single cent! (not that he asked)
30: EPISODE II.
Time to grow up. I started saving for a house at 30, by 33 I purchased a dilapidated wreck @auction and went through it without taking out a mortgage, by 36 it was livable and occupied but nowhere near finished, I had painted plywood floors and nailed down hardwood one room, one hall, and one section at a time, including tile and woodwork, the wood (oak) was purchased at an exotic wood supplier for less than the cost of pine, but had to be edged straightened, planed, sanded, shaped, and finished, lotta work!
30: EPISODE III.
I was incarcerated by my GF calling the cops knowing I would be screwed for operating without a license.
Away I went, off to jail, four months wasted and all my stuff plundered and stolen from my apartment, I got the apartment just after moving out of a motorhome parked in a mill complex. That was a souring event that disenchanted me about women, one other women after her that was married then I was ALL F~~~ING DONE! Age 35, F~~~ OFF AND DIE! That was the final shot! Head ball, off 3 banks and in the side pocket! My brains were f~~~ing scrambled!
Within a year I was in flight school flying a plane, and skiing 50 to 75 days a season! Instead of working on the house during the impossible winter I got ski houses with friends and went skiing EVERY WINTER! That’s why it took over 5 years to move into the resurrected house!
30 years old we break free or go under.
30 years old I decided to become a teenager again just like them, but in a much different way, I was the one that became free and they’re the ones that became ensnared by loneliness and emptiness that will follow them to the grave, only because to a 30 year old MGTOW Peter Pan, women are already dead and buried!
I do know one thing for sure, at 30 a good man’s life becomes SWEET and for modern women life becomes ROTTEN.
Women are in their beauty and glory for only 10 to 15 years, after that it’s all
What’s your 30 year old story or aspirations?
Where do you hope to be at this life’s natural turning point?
What’s your 30 year old story? MGTOW only please, all other stories SUCK! (just kidding)2017-08-21 at 6:46 AM#574675+8
A comedian once said that when you hit 30 you finally figure out your hair. I can’t say that any lights went on when I hit 30. I did buy my first house after I hit 30, but I also married my second wife after 30. So much for being smarter. I did wear my hair better, though.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."2017-08-21 at 6:50 AM#574678+5
A comedian once said that when you hit 30 you finally figure out your hair
Never trust anyone under 30!2017-08-21 at 8:10 AM#574727+9
I turned 30 in 2000.
That’s when I got divorced, lost everything, gained my freedom, lost my mother and a year later my father, experienced a foursome, lost my way, went to jail for the first time in my life over false allegations ( it would not be the last time ) and finally understood what kind of world I lived in. That’s when my mental state took a dive for the worst.2017-08-21 at 8:24 AM#574733+7
hmmm when I was 30 that was year 2000ish. I was still working for a computer company, just bought our house and planning some painting,
Our daughter was 2, learning to walk and talk and feed herself, and falling down, and picking her self up. I think it is the learning to walk process that teaches up how to persevere. It’s the how badly do you want something drive with in us. I think some people have a f~~~ ton of it, and some people have very little.
Life will knock you down over and over and over, and yes it is hard sometimes getting back up. But we get back up, and go at it again. I refuse to lose. I will not give up moving forward. I don’t really have a choice. I move forward, or I die in place.2017-08-21 at 8:25 AM#574734+9
That’s when my mental state took a dive for the worst.
Me too brother Untamed, only 6 years prior I had a gun in my mouth loaded, I attribute that episode to the insanity of multiple sex partners starting at age 11.
We don’t grow up knowing the world has gone haywire, we learn that the hard way, experiences our grand dads never knew nor the men before them and the sexual revolution.
The c~~~ carousel revolves every day picking up more and more passengers, while other like myself walk a straight line and no longer go in sexual revolution circles on either the c~~~ carousel or it’s newly established cousin since 1970, the Marry’go’round!
The abusment park from hell will surly put any man in his grave!2017-08-21 at 8:26 AM#574735+8
What’s your 30 year old story or aspirations?
Was away on Military duty when my Fiancee decided that a friend in college with a Jeep was more interesting.
I found out when I returned home and went to her condo to pick up my stuff. All in all 1993 was a good year in hindsight.
"My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it." - Clarence Buddinton Kelland2017-08-21 at 9:43 AM#574773+4
I attribute that episode to the insanity of multiple sex partners starting at age 11.
Sex had nothing to do with mine.
I attribute my episode to desillusion after certain willingness to live in denial.2017-08-21 at 4:13 PM#575065+8
I love what you say about a mans life turning sweet and a womans turning rotten at age 30. So true. That is where the tables turn.
For men, as long as youve made good choices, done something with your life, and didn’t get married or impregnate anyone, life gets good. Your career starts taking off, your finances just keep getting better and better, and you make real progress towards your life goals and aspirations. Your SMV also increases, and you have the time, freedom, and resources to do better with women than you did in your 20s, IF that is what you want to do.
For women, thats when everything starts falling apart. They get used to men bending over backwards for them, catering to their every whim. They think they are all little mini-celebrities and debutantes. They get cash, gifts, resources, favors, and attention that is almost unfathomable to us men. But then it goes away.
Suddenly they are left with nothing, except the consequences of their actions. They have bastard children, huge debts from studying abroad and student loans from their useless basket weaving degrees. They have no savings, assets, or investments. Their cars and houses (if they own one) are falling apart, because men will no longer fix them and they cant pay for or fix it themselves. Their bodies are falling apart as well. Their life is truely bleak and meaningless at this point.
As a pharmacist, i can tell you that there are many more of these women than you think. They are literally invisible to you. If you saw them, you’d think they were happy and old…but you look at their profile, and they are on a ton of psych (and other types of) medications, paid for by welfare, and you are shocked when you see how young they are. They have nothing.
I just turned 30 last year and will be 31 soon. I am living well. I am slowly getting over my red pill rage, and life is basically a dream for me. I’m making a bunch of money, and when I’m not working i am enjoying every minute of my time and my hobbies. I shoot all the guns i want, play guitars and work on amps with my brother, play video games when i want, eat what i want, sleep when i want.
No women influence or control my life. I have almost no contact with them, unless i really REALLY need sex. But i need it less every day. I’ve been able to basically completely eliminate them from my life, and I’ve never been happier. I cannot say the same for them, especially the ones my age or older. Life is truly good.
If you have any young male friends, make sure you show them the way…life sucks for young men these days, but it gets so much better. Most of them have no idea.2017-08-21 at 5:10 PM#575094+3
They get cash, gifts, resources, favors, and attention that is almost unfathomable to us men. But then it goes away.
They can blame the White Knights, simps, and manginas for their ghostly vanishing from the spotlight, the real man not willing to pamper or kiss her ass she never even saw, all she saw was all the glitter and attention.
Spoil someone, anyone, and they truly go rotten, how sad, FOR THEM!2017-09-17 at 9:25 PM#602773+3
It’s nice when you know when to avoid a totally needless confrontation. It saves having many regretful thoughts about past behavior; to not do anything bad in a bad situation is a sign of learning and maturity.2017-09-20 at 12:55 PM#605349+2
I’m looking forward to turning 30. All I know is that it will be relatively awesome by default…
They have nothing.
I don't need a legacy.. I don't need a monument.2017-10-15 at 3:08 PM#631774+1
The young thundercat becomes a panther.
"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock2017-10-24 at 12:00 PM#641523+5
I was still very much Blue Pill & chasing the American dream. It turned into a nightmare at about the age of 32. Didnt get straightened out until I was about 40. now I am probably one of the oldest men who contributes to this site. I see myself reflected in a lot of the posts & I enjoy reading. frankly,I thank God for MGTOW b/c I truly felt alone & isolated in the way I live my life. Today, I only do those things which are in my own best interests & am totally unapologetic about it. Simply put, I come & go as I please2017-10-25 at 10:48 PM#643323+3
For me, life started in my early 30s, when I resigned from my office job, became self-employed, and gave notice to my gf to move out. It is a pivotal time, but many men take the wrong turn-off in their late 20s, when they give in to societal pressures to get married, have children, etc. etc.2017-11-07 at 10:28 AM#655916+7
but you look at their profile, and they are on a ton of psych (and other types of) medications, paid for by welfare, and you are shocked when you see how young they are. They have nothing.
That’s the dang truth, I tell myself ‘you don’t want to know her.’ Because they’re all loaded on anti-depressants and live life on an emotional shoestring. I don’t need that.
In my early twenties I had a skewed perspective of women, all I did or cared about was drinking. I was very vulnerable and drank alot. But my drinking was almost like a blessing and a curse. It kept me from getting sucked into the legal trap of marriage and child support.
Once I became sober and discovered mgtow at 27, my life took off like a jet fighter off a freaking aircraft carrier. I don’t drink and I don’t fool with women in any capacity. This is a definite recipe for success. It takes time but I’m a freebird for sure, all due to mgtow and sobriety. But that’s just me.
The highlight of my life is owning my own stuff, riding my bicycle to keep the carbs off, expressing myself creatively and just being friends with myself. I love it. I’ll be 32 in March. I haven’t had sex in over 4 years, nor have I had a drop of booze or weed in that time. I drink a cup of coffee and do whatever I want. Ive learned where danger is and I have a healthy fear of it. Danger is usually something to do with a woman or a six pack of beer for me.
man up means man down2017-11-12 at 2:24 PM#661360+1
30 was a fun age for me
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.2017-11-12 at 2:28 PM#661363+1
30 was a fun age for me
You posted that picture when you first signed up here, I never forgot it! Times have changed! ALLOT!2017-11-20 at 6:09 PM#670010+4
When I turned 30…I started my first business…in spite of all of the mistakes I made along with Bad Luck: I almost made it. 3 years later I returned to school, finished my degrees, and graduated when I was 34. When I was 40 I got married for the first time. Got my first house when I was 41….got my career going when I was 43. By the time I was 47 I was divorced, then….got a couple of motorcycles…had some fun. Dated more women than I ever dated before in my entire life. Learned a lot about women over the years. Helped build a MicroBrewery that I later bought into and funny thing: it took off right as the Great Recession took off. The worse the economy got, the more people drank and the more successful it became. It took almost 1 full year of working after work and working on the weekends (7 days a week) to build that thing. We didn’t have the money to pay a contractor so we did it ourselves.
And although it took a long time, eventually I recovered financially from my divorce. I only very gradually woke up to the Red Pill. And to this day there are times where I struggle with it. But every observation I made and experience I had only validated what I read. Eventually the evidence built up to the point of being overwhelming. Now I see very common patterns and categories of patterns of behavior by women, that are universal: regardless of their country or culture of origin.
And while I cannot always predict what a woman will say: I can normally predict what she will actually do, and by predicting what she will do, I get a very good idea of what she will say which is almost always the exact opposite of what she does.
I spent a period of time where I was very angry, but then I read Esther Vilar’s book: The manipulated man, and then I started to read articles on Evolutionary Psychology and I came to realize that women just evolved this way, and that these behavioral patterns they are frequently not quite conscious of…instead they automatically carry them out without giving much thought to them: and when they do; they always try to rationalize it. (The Hamster effect).
Now in my 50’s….I have experienced health problems. which has changed my long range plans on what and where I will be going in my retirement, and bumped up my retirement date quite a bit. But that is ok. I can adjust…looking back on turning 30…there was no internet back then. There was no MGTOW.com or any Manosphere…we men were mostly in the dark about women until a pretty late age. Thank G_d for the Internet and the compilation and dissemination of knowledge!
You younger guys are far ahead of me than when I was at your age! Of course some things we actually have to experience in order to learn that what we read and thought was theoretical…is actually real. But at least the knowledge is now widely available and because of that there is some hope to avert tragedy from happening to some men’s lives.2018-01-26 at 11:04 PM#726385+4
Similar experience here guys – since crossing the 30 threshold a few years ago – work, salary and life in general has been progressively on the up.
The only way I could screw things up is by letting a girl move in with me or getting married. Unless a shotgun is involved it will never happen.
Currently living in my converted van, saving well and enjoying the simple life. Buying land, toys and creating the time and space to learn everything and anything will all be possible, having evaded society’s traps.
It feels good to be a free man and trading that freedom for pussy is not a deal I would shake on.
Learning by others past mistakes doesn't make me better than them but grateful for their sacrifice
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