- 2015-11-29 at 10:11 PM#149310+13
I should have known, yet here I am again facing xmas and another birthday alone. Just like the year before. Here I am dealing with being lied to by a woman who doesn’t care about me. Just like the year before. Just lies, letdowns and more loneliness. Lost hopes and defeated expectations. I yet again face this horrible holidays season with no one and nothing. I wasted time taking a girl out a total of six times. In the end she was just as distant and cold towards me as the first date. The fact that I even got a date was a miracle in itself. But it just proves to me and goes to show me that this really is the end of the road for me. About to turn 41 and I am completely alone. It is about time for me to stop and let go of all of the wishful thinking and expecting some woman to ever accept me. I can say that i have in fact seen it all. Liars, cheaters and abusers are rewarded. The ‘bad’ man is supreme. He can do no wrong. In the end its men like me who pay. The losers of society or the ‘left over men’. Well it is what it is I guess. It is what it is.2015-11-29 at 10:38 PM#149320+21
The Skank SpankerParticipant1372
NEVER let a women dictate your happiness. NEVER be an option for a woman. The problem you have is that you seek happiness in a woman and you base your self-worth on whether you are with a woman and how she values you. Stop being dependent on women and create a life for yourself with friends, hobbies and project to work on. Nobody likes a person that wallows in self-pity. Do you feel lonely because you don’t have a woman that whines and naggs all day? Man, I feel great without a permanent c~~~ by my side (besides the occasional pussy). When I’m 41 I still want to live life like this…
The end of the road? Dude. C’mon, you can do better. There is a life for you, but you need to make it happen yourself. What are your plans?
Read up on MGTOW and swallow that red pill if you want…
Keep posting and welcome to MGTOW.2015-11-29 at 10:45 PM#149322+27
Sounds like FREEDOM to me. Embrace that s~~~!2015-11-29 at 10:53 PM#149326+14
NEVER let a women dictate your happiness. NEVER be an option for a woman. The problem you have is that you seek happiness in a woman and you base your self-worth on whether you are with a woman and how she values you. Stop being dependent on women and create a life for yourself with friends, hobbies and project to work on. Nobody likes a person that wallows in self-pity. Do you feel lonely because you don’t have a woman that whines and naggs all day? Man, I feel great without a permanent c~~~ by my side (besides the occasional pussy).When I’m 41 I still want to live life like this…
The end of the road? Dude. C’mon, you can do better. There is a life for you, but you need to make it happen yourself. What are your plans?
Read up on MGTOW and swallow that red pill if you want…
Keep posting and welcome to MGTOW.
This. Your happiness should not be dictated by a nagging, parasitic narcissist. There is a difference between being lonely and being alone. Embrace the latter and see how drama free and quiet your life becomes. The red pill is a bitter one, but it will save you in the end.
Better yourself, take of yourself and enjoy your freedom.Fuck this planet.2015-11-29 at 11:02 PM#149333+24
This post hits hard…. but I loved the responses from others.
Would it help if I told you that you were DELIBERATELY socially conditioned to feel this way? The system thrives on you feeling insecure and incomplete without a t~~~t. They WANT you feeling this way. Afraid of being alone. Of going bald. Of not being muscular. Of being a virgin. Of continuing to have regular sex after you’re no longer a virgin….. and reading your post, it looks like it’s working.
You will never find any solace in the bosom of a female. The sooner you accept it the better. It’s not a cliche what Jedi45 said. He’ s not just saying that to make you “feel better”. Its really true. I couldn’t be happier about the fact that Christmas will be 9 days to myself for the first time in years. NINE DAYS.
Never had nine days all to myself. F~~~ing paradise I tell you.
Take a good listen if you’re up for it:
And Merry Christmas. Our gift to you.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.2015-11-29 at 11:07 PM#149334+10
I had a truly awesome xmas after the strife left. She insisted on having kids xmas morning. So my morning was a bit of a sleep in followed by eggs bene and a large coffee with a shot of old crow bourbon while I sat and watched A Very Harrold and Kumar Christmass. Got the kids at mid day and enjoyed the rest of the day.
Thinking Xmas sucks because you don’t have a woman in you life is bass ackwards trust me. Maybe just go out xmas day and visit friends, or just connect with others in your community. Or appreciate the quiet.
Never fuck a crazy chick.2015-11-29 at 11:24 PM#149342+4
I agree with KeyMaster and all the other previous posts. Let me add this: You may have seasonal affective disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_affective_disorder (aptly shortened to SAD).
I know I did. The light therapy worked for me. I also loaded up with vitamins, minerals, and omega-3 essential fatty acids bought from my local mom & pop health food store.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?2015-11-29 at 11:40 PM#149347+11
F~~~ I love loneliness!
A whole generation of married men across the western world can only get glimpses of it by retreating to their garage, attic, basement.
I shudder at the thought of being with some harpy and having to do all the dumb f~~~ s~~~ she knows I don’t want to do at Xmas, including and especially going to her family’s place where’ll you’ll be subtly reminded that it’s her family, not yours, and that your kids are just extensions of her family.
Despite their imp[lied intentions, it’s just a series of s~~~ tests. Just watch and listen as she relates every dumb f~~~ thing she’s managed to get you to do to all her girlfriends.
Xmas is like every other commercial holiday. It’s another opportunity for insecure females to gauge their self worth at your expense.2015-11-30 at 1:11 AM#149383+9
As others have said – your loneliness is relative. Society may program one way,but we don’t have to buy it. I treasure my solitude. This world is f~~~ed up enough. Being in your own company affords you a peace unobtainable otherwise – enjoy.2015-11-30 at 2:26 AM#149419+11
I turned 41 last week.
It’s one of the hardest ages for men, and not surprisingly it’s the age when suicide is at its highest. Testosterone at 1/2 what it was when you were 19, a feeling that the world has taken from you and given nothing back, little to show for all your hard work, no appreciation, too old to party hard, not old enough to retire, often alimony payments, child support, debts and failed relationships.
I know, I’m there.
But this is the best time in your life to search for what makes you TRULY happy. And I guarantee that is not working 70 hours a week for someone else, nor taking out the trash, holding her bags while she spends your credit card, or anything else that “society” thinks is normal.
There is a lot of support from other men who have faced this situation and come through, and you’re in the right place! I started by making a list of all the things I wanted to acheive, and I’ve already ticked off a few – get fit (put on 10kg of muscle in 5 months! DONE!) get my motorcycle licence (DONE! and got a ZX12R haha!) Learn to operate an excavator (had a go), start investing (DONE!), travel the world (Australia, Canada, NZ, France already), and the list goes on.
The only thing stopping you is your own self-confidence, nothing more. Learn to give up the sads in whichever way you possibly can. Put it aside, say f~~~ it, give depression the finger, force yourself to get out, make a friend get you out, put an alarm on once an hour to annoy yourself into doing something about it, ANYTHING. And above all, say f~~~ it, I’m doing it, I don’t care what anyone else thinks.
I’ve done holiday season alone for 7 years now, and it’s a time when I get to spend it on whatever I want. Fallout 4? Don’t mind if I do. Dyed my hair (accidentally) orange? Brilliant. Fixed the motorbike? The neighbours knew it at 9am on Xmas morning!
And stay on here. Read. Talk. Get ideas. Inspiration. You can do it, because we have and we can show you how we did it.
Good luck!2015-11-30 at 3:16 AM#149440+11
“If you are going through hell, keep going.”2015-11-30 at 3:23 AM#149444+10
I should have known, yet here I am again facing xmas and another birthday alone. Just like the year before. Here I am dealing with being lied to by a woman who doesn’t care about me. Just like the year before. Just lies, letdowns and more loneliness. Lost hopes and defeated expectations. I yet again face this horrible holidays season with no one and nothing. I wasted time taking a girl out a total of six times. In the end she was just as distant and cold towards me as the first date. The fact that I even got a date was a miracle in itself. But it just proves to me and goes to show me that this really is the end of the road for me. About to turn 41 and I am completely alone. It is about time for me to stop and let go of all of the wishful thinking and expecting some woman to ever accept me. I can say that i have in fact seen it all. Liars, cheaters and abusers are rewarded. The ‘bad’ man is supreme. He can do no wrong. In the end its men like me who pay. The losers of society or the ‘left over men’. Well it is what it is I guess. It is what it is.
You sir are a very lucky SOB.
I really mean that ….. not taking the p~~~.
I have just told everyone that this Xmas I’m renting a truck, throwing all my photo & video gear, sleeping bag, stove & food in the back ….. and fking off in the wilds on my own.
Every time I see a human I will pack up an move on.
Embrace it. A man needs this stuff ….. a man needs zero contact …. he is a lone wolf.
Yes we like company … friends … sex …. but or DNA is of the wolf.2015-11-30 at 5:00 AM#149476+3
I can’t really offer better advice than these gentlemen, I have been learning myself the last few months. But keep this in mind, most of those guys who have a woman in their lives are probably jealous of you, especially the so called bad guy. How do I know? they will basically say so.
I was waiting with my younger cousin, he’s a 24 year old engineer, unmarried and I see a potential MGTOW, but I have to be careful because his parents are Tradcons. He brings up the subject of women, he’s gone on a couple of dates but no one of interest. One even said she would not date someone who makes less than her (hypergamy really does float). She didn’t know she was talking to an engineer at the moment. He talked about all his college mates who have gotten married and not one of them is in a happy relationship. I mentioned numerous points about how the deck is stacked against men. His dad showed up about this time and the last thing I said to him was ” if you don’t find that just right person, don’t marry!”
In our fantasy world we all think we could make a relationship work if we found the right partner or unicorn, but then we snap out of it and know it’s not real.
You have to live for yourself and the things you are passionate about, fill your time like the others have mentioned.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."2015-11-30 at 7:30 AM#149526+6
After I read the book in my tag line I woke up and realized that I was trained by women to be lonely without women.
I am not lonely anymore.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.2015-11-30 at 10:43 AM#149640+7
I’d rather be alone than be with someone who makes me feel alone.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.2015-11-30 at 12:40 PM#149694+10
Stop looking for a broad to make your life happy, or complete. It only sounds good because of the fantasy we’ve been fed. The reality is very different. I have traveled many places about the world all by myself, spent most of my holidays either by myself or with family (brothers and sisters), and I can tell you that it is OK.
Another point, if you cannot be “whole” and happy by yourself, the women will OWN you, and they will never respect you. Being desperate for sex and companionship is a huge turn-off for women, and they will treat you like s~~~ for your weakness.
Find some interests and follow them. Develop your own self-esteem (note the word SELF, not “random broad” esteem.) Once you can be happy and whole on your own, the women will notice. The lazy bitches will know they have nothing to offer and will ignore you, but if you do happen upon a “unicorn” who is actually worth getting to know, that is the ONLY way you’ll attract her, since she will be the type who lives her own life that way, not caught up in stupid relationship games.
"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin2015-11-30 at 5:29 PM#149885+6
Stop believing the fairy tale s~~~. It never existed.
I agree with Stealthy on getting rid of the TV. This is CRUCIAL. It’s called “programming” because they’re literally programming s~~~ into your head. Learn to appreciate the silence.
Start learning about the world. There is so much fascinating stuff out there. Thanks to the Internet there is literally an infinite amount of interesting content available. Make a list of things you are interested in and just dive into something new each week.
For the depression thing, I cannot stress OMEGA 3s enough!!! Most Americans are not getting enough healthy fats and you will be depressed, lower IQ, lower energy, etc etc etc if you are deficient.
F~~~ loneliness. There is nothing “out there” that will make you happy or complete.. Everything important is happening within your own mind. Master your own mind and you have mastered the world.
Not my property... Not my problem2015-11-30 at 6:17 PM#149939+4
who am I to tell guys about being mgtow…
I’m fairly new here, but I’ve almost always found your advice spot-on, dead center accurate.
Everything important is happening within your own mind. Master your own mind and you have mastered the world.
To OP (original poster):
I can relate. Holidays were a big deal for me. So very big a deal, along with many of the things you mentioned, that I p~~~ed away decades of my life in relationships with horrible women who used me and then kicked me to the curb once my utility was done, because I didn’t like being alone, and especially didn’t like being alone over the holidays. Guess what? I’m alone now, and it would have been a lot cheaper in terms of money, time, opportunities if I had bitten the bullet and accepted being alone then.
Everyone’s suggestions here are awesome. Literally awesome. I’ve bookmarked this page, and will print it out, or copy it down, or both. Repete, repete . . .
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."2015-12-01 at 9:45 PM#150672+2
I appreciate all of your comments. The only thing I can say is that a lot of you are married or have been married. Perhaps you feel freedom from being free of marriage and women after many years. But again at least many of you have had experiences. Unlike me I with no one and have nothing. I have been alone for a very long time and have been rejected by every woman I have ever known. I have few experiences. I have been without intimacy, touch and closeness. I have no access to this and have been denied the very things that normal men take for granted. I only know loneliness. I got friend zoned, again, just today. I am so use to it that i have even come to expect it these days. The let downs and broken dreams are just a part of the ultimate rejection. It becomes hard to see any hope for anything in life when you have been denied certain experiences. it’s like looking into a great hole. I often feel a serious loss and such a deep void in my life. I do not like being alone all of the time. It hurts, perhaps some men love being alone. But because it is all i have ever known, there is no joy in it. It is not fun for me. It is horror, a horror that never ends.2015-12-02 at 7:21 AM#150823+1
I try to believe you but it just seems that we are made to suffer. I came across a horrible article recently that explains so many things. I complained to the bbc for this degrading piece. But it doesnt matter. They dont care, no one cares. When you speak about God it is hard for memto accept that God would allow for something like this. For men to pay in such a way in hurt and sadness. To face loneliness and tomfind the very thing that could bring them joy only brings misery reminds them of their inferiority to these women who were given everything.
The article stirs up my hate and it hurts me deeply. Infind myself moving towards hate more and more. I feel the life inside of me dying. My emotions dying. I feel that perhaps as men all we have in the end is hate and sadness for what life has donento us, what evolution has done to us.
i have given up. Imgive up on everything. I am done with it all. I am finished with wanting anything. Life is not fun. It is horrible and these kind of experiences only tell me that it will never be okay. Men were made tomsuffer this indiginity. To die in this way alone and broken from the start. We are broken andnworthless human beings. Even evolution has done this to us by making us not even be able to experience pleasure or joy. We are failed creatures. It is. Not fair that women have everything.mto feel everything while we suffer. I know that inwill never have companionship. I cant. I will never be accepted andnthe act of intimacy itself is degrading. I cant see myself with a woman amd standing there unable to even feel while she goes on and on receivi g everything in an endless bliss while the man watches unable to know the feeling. It is completely unfair and wrong. Who is to blaim for this? For me it is God for allowing this to happen. For making men evolve in this way that we are forever at a disadvantage in life, love and everything. We were just made to suffer this indignity. To pay for our own existence. It is a hard thing to face,mto know that i will never know the joy of fatherhood, or children. Imwill never have a beach to walk on. So many things i will never know and experience all because i am denied the right to. I feel locked into this broken body, this broken life and i must face alone each day a world where men are inferior from design. Even everythought of intimacy is just a reminder of that inferiority. To knownthat thenwomenhave it all. That each one has been given everything andnthat i dont even have a hope or a chance to keep up. It isnthenultimate rejection. The rejection from existence itself. It is a great hurt to face and one that i know i will not survive. I have given up on. Everything i once dreamed about. There is no point anymore in needing or wanting something that was never mine to begin with. And evolution has made sure to deny us. There is no love for men. There is no pleasure, no joy, no hope. There is only the realisation that our needs are worthless. Women do not havento worry about needs when everything has been created for them. There is no urge because the pleasure is never ending and the ease of it brings no need for anything else. I have lost faith in life and this world. I just sit in my loneliness and must contend with what little left i have. I know what my fate is now and though it is the most terrible thing to face. I accept my fate. As it is what it is. There is changing what must be and will be. I know i have paid the price. Such a heavy price. As my dreams fade away so does the light from my eyes. It is a fitting conclusion to a tragic story,mwritten to fail before its start. Alone i sleep the nights away wishing to never wake up into this horrible world and to the degrading reality of this body and biology of men. Loneliness is all that is left when i factor a lifetime of let downs.
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