2017-06-02 at 5:29 PM #499109+6
I haven’t read back through this whole thread recently, but I suspect you’re gonna get the trophy for that post. ‘sounds like a straight up paranoid schizophrenic. I’m glad the sex was at least really good. If you’re going to risk your life for some sex, it damn well better be! LOL2017-06-02 at 8:16 PM #499202+1
If you’re going to risk your life for some sex, it damn well better be! LOL
Yes it was great. Every time, all the time.
And I get a trophy…cool.
She was a major player in my swearing off women. Partly because everyone afterward seems dull by comparison. When I reference my BPD gf in my other posts, it’s this one.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.2017-06-02 at 8:53 PM #499219
Possessed by the voices in her head, she would start speaking what they were saying to her in the middle of the night. Like the name of a dead black woman. A dead black woman in the middle of the night. This dead black woman wanted me to know her name.
She told me she used to receive oral sex from ghosts. Tried to Communicate to me telepathically across the room. Would look at me with huge eyes to see if message was received. Every time I saw her she wanted to analyze the status of our relationship. Seven months in, she started cycles of breakups, every two weeks, always big and dramatic, for no perceivable reason, screaming tantrum and walking off. I hung in for at least a dozen of these rounds.
We watched Fatal Attraction together, her response was that the female character seemed normal. Freaked out and broke up with me when I bought a color necktie she didn’t like (gray) and claimed it caused her physical pain. She and her husband jointly proposed marriage to me, essentially a handoff in which I would marry her and he would divorce her, which I declined since I didn’t want to get married. She had several sexual encounters with other guys that she lied to me about while insisting she wanted to date me exclusively while being married.
She left me while attempting to divorce her husband and becoming a sex slave to a tiny little PUA I knew who was trying to practice dominating women (and whom I suspect I have seen on this site, based on a lot of personal information shared by a member whose handle is similar to this guy’s name in real life. Who knows.) Anyways, that only lasted about two weeks before she burned bridges with her social circle and left the state, her family, and kids to move in with an ex bf because he was one day late in his annual happy birthday text message. Sent me constant angry love messages, raw obsessive hate mixed with nostalgia, other times just gibberish that made no grammatical sense. She briefly stalked other female friends of mine. Called one up and told her to have sex with me. Showed up on my porch at midnight during a thunderstorm wanting to get in, on the way to breaking up with a transvestite she had gotten involved with. I called the cops and answered the door armed. Last time we were together I could see mental illness breaking through in her facial expressions as she was losing a grip on herself. I sensed she was re-branded by her other partners, and she also got physically violent for the first time so I walked away. She has only gotten worse and still stalks me to this day. She has a family history of murder. Best sex ever and I was in love with her and her spells. but she has a problem.
I knew something was off from the beginning. On our first date she took her clothes off, got in my bed, and refused to leave. By the second or third date she was talking about leaving her husband and family for me.
Then the usual stuff you guys have mentioned.
Your first mistake was not getting rid of her after the first night. Or as soon as you found out she was married. Then when you said 7 months later? How much craziness a man can handle is amazing. We all put up with so much more than we should and we know better. I have a pretty good excuse though, mine was a Playboy Playmate twice over and in music videos as the lead female for some of the biggest names in the business.
It still didn’t make me smart for sticking around or not kicking her to the curb sooner than I did.
One more thing, Bro. The craziest bitches are always the best f~~~s or, is it the best f~~~s are crazy bitches? LOL
" if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields2017-06-02 at 9:30 PM #499230
Notafool, I agree with you completely.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.2017-06-02 at 11:38 PM #499272+1
It’s a drag that we all had to learn these things the hard way. Like I have written in my Bio, I’ve always pretty much gone my own way and the reason why is I have two older sisters, five and six years older. They aren’t bad women one is gay both are very attractive and I grew up hanging around with them and their boyfriends and their girlfriends. So from the time I was about 13 I was watching and listening to both guys and girls and taking it all in. I saw the girls who used guys and the guys that used girls and a couple that got together around age 16 and are still happily married 40 years later. The older guys taught me a lot my brother in law was one of those guys. I’ve known him since I was about nine or ten and he was 16 or 17 when he first dated my sister in high school and then again in their 20s and broke up and in their early 30s got married. But, my bro in law is still a man that every chick wants to f~~~ and he taught me a lot during the years when he wasn’t with my sister but, he even said, no matter how much you listen and hear all the stories you have to go through the bulls~~~ that chicks will put you through. No one is impervious to women’s shady side and the craziness that they all have to one degree or another. When I said my sisters were cool that is because they weren’t users of guys too badly. They didn’t take too much advantage of their sexuality. But, as far as crazy? Hahaha they are just like the rest of them. But their is crazy that is just from being a female and the hormones and having a period and guys pushing and pulling and then there are real legitimate crazy bitches and it is obvious when they are young. I’ll tell you what makes women even more insane? Having children. I swear. Giving birth must suck a big part of a woman’s ability to be rational, not that they ever are to begin with but, having kids flips some switch and women are not the same anymore. I think they know it also. If you’ve got kids and if you are or were with the mother of those kids and you were with her for any length of time prior to the kids you will definitely know what I’m talking about. I don’t have kids but I was a very good uncle and I also like my family and spend a lot of time with them. Watching my sister go from a little crazy as a teenager and 20 something turn into a psycho bitch over the smallest things after having kids was a trip and my brother in law noticed it also and he would look at me while my sister was spinning her head around completely like the exorcist and he’d ask if it was just him or is she going insane? She overheard him say that once and I thought everyone at the house right then were going to be on the evening news as the main story of housewife kills whole family over the trash needing to be emptied. Hahahaha
We have to live through the s~~~ or at least witness it firsthand to fully understand the braindamage they (women) have at different levels, they all have it but some hide it better or know how to control it better than some. And we don’t always get to see it early in the relationship. They wait til they are comfortable before they reveal the lunacy. Hahahaha God help us men.
" if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields2017-06-03 at 8:11 AM #499448
I definitely had to go through this and am glad I did, although I would not do it again.
This was my first and only LTR after my divorce. I had not dated as an adult previous to it, so I had “married man skills” but was brand spanking new to the dating scene. The reason I stayed in so long–over a year–was partly experimental, since I basically had no experience previous. If not her, it would have been someone else to wean me off women, although hopefully less crazy. My ex wife was also crazy and i had to figure out if they really were all the same. The one following the above crazy gf was also equally “off”, just in different ways (lawsuit-happy, overmedicated, unpredictable). So far all confirmed.
Some girls who have heard a glimpse of the stories think I like to choose the crazy ones. But I didn’t go out looking for it, I just got to see more of it as things progressed. True, early on I did not heed or notice the red flags which I now can see from miles away…that wisdom has been hard-earned from experience. For males with natural sex drives, unc~~~ing seems to be something you have to arrive at after seeing the landscape for yourself.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.2017-06-03 at 8:27 AM #499455
I’m still processing the part, where a guy tells you he probably has HIV, and you decide: “Ah well, f~~~ it.”
Yeah, mine did this too. She told me she suspected this guy in our social circle had an STD. A month later she slept with him. WTF. I realized around then that she was opening me up to risks I did not understand nor could see, and which were being poorly managed.2017-06-03 at 9:06 AM #499486+1
@ Stealth and everyone else…
As I said before, women are all crazy. There are degrees of crazy. And yes, people, women especially are going to say or think that a man who has had been with a really crazy bitch, that it has to be him that finds the crazy ones because in their eyes they don’t consider themselves as crazy or their friends as crazy, therefore the number of crazy women is very few so how could you possibly be that unlucky to have had more than one psycho in your life, it has to be you.
I was single, longest relationship was four years, twice, until I was 42 years old. All my relationships were with pretty decent women. Then I got married kicked her out of my house four months into the marriage. I waited about a year almost two before I dated again. I’m talking a date. One time only. A few times then I met the craziest one and she’s the one I’m usually talking about. Having the crazy wife and then the girlfriend after that who is the worst, and the insanity that she’s put me through and everyone thinks it must be me. My picker must be out of calibration. It only picks crazy women. I had to question myself at one point if it might be me?
I guess I’m just narcissistic enough, in the good way, to not believe when someone puts me down or tells me I can’t do this or that or I’m worthless or stupid. I know I’m not the one who is drawn to crazy women.
I think men are crazy also. We have to be. Because being a little crazy is the only way for us to want to be with women. You have to be out of your mind to want to be in love and be with a crazy lady
" if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields2017-11-01 at 12:51 AM #649403+1
Oh man…Craziest one I had literally jumped on me for sex. She tried sucking me off. Tried jerking me off. Even put her t~~~ on my face. Even tried giving me s~~~. But she slept with alot of women and men. Tried inviting me for a threesome. I been through all the bulls~~~ that I just wasnt falling for it.
What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.2017-11-07 at 2:29 PM #656186+1
An excerpt from the article I just wrote today:
The Only Way to Get Your Girlfriend Back
Attempt #1 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
This was one of my first major relationships. I didn’t really know what I was doing but she was sexy and fun. We seemed to get along well together and went on a lot of adventures. She was the type of girl you wrote of as crazy, but in a “good” way. So you thought. We dated for a while before I started to notice her lies. Her lies adding up. Things seemed off but we were having fun so I didn’t question it. Things started getting a bit distant after several months. We started fighting and she would create drama over little things. She would create a scene in my apartment complex and even threaten me a few times. I started wondering what I could do to win back her heart. While I was searching for the answers there was a guy that was friends of our group of friends that I really didn’t like. He was a douche bag and very self centered. He cheated on his girlfriend all the time and was very open about it, yet she was sending him money and helping him from back home on the east coast. (A possible siting of a unicorn). Of course, I get wind of something from a girl on the inside. A friend of mine he was trying to have sex with as well but she didn’t give in. She read some interesting messages on AOL or MSN (I can’t remember, back in the day.) She forwarded them to me and it all came out that they had sex a few times. All while pretending to be in a relationship with me. You see. This was a very calculated attempt to bring me down. She thought I was cheating on her and did all of this in a rage to get back at me.. but the reality is I wasn’t cheating. My perfect girlfriend had turned out to be a crazy bi-polar nympho.
Attempt #2 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
If you have ever been in a longer relationship you have a moment where you say to yourself, she’s a great girl, she’s awesome, I’m really going to try and make her happy. Well it was at this moment in the relationship she decided to go cold turkey. I thought there must have been something I did or didn’t do to upset her. I spent weeks trying to get in contact and even thought about driving over (she lived an hour away) to make sure everything was okay. I sent flowers and a card. Called several times and I received no replies and no contact from my girlfriend. I researched different techniques to get my girlfriend back and just as I had the perfect recipe to get her back I received a text. I started to feel a bad feeling in my gut and two weeks later she finally told me her ex had been staying at her house. Being the SIMP I was I asked her if they had any relations. I didn’t hear back for another couple days. You see guys, my loving perfect girlfriend was actually getting the D from her ex and was too much of a coward to end things with me so she totally discarded me.
Attempt #3 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
When you date a women and really start falling for her you tend to overlook her flaws. This girl was beautiful, she had a great sense of humor and a very freaky side. She was perfect in every way. I knew for sure in the end we would be together. This relationship however would be tough. I was moving back and forth from Wisconsin and Arizona looking for work and houses. It was quite chaotic and we went on many adventures together having some intense moments on the road. When it was all over I thought we had a nice relationship with hopes of settling down together one day. There was a few month period where I would have to be away from her and back in Wisconsin and in this time things started to seem different. I started feeling a bad feeling in my gut. I sent flowers and messaged her trying to figure it all out. Reading stories online and searching for the answer to get her back I started getting emotional and made the decision to fly back to Arizona and surprise her with some special time. I got there just as she was leaving for class and decided to take a nap. I woke up and started browsing the web and noticed her diary sitting on the desk. Out of curiosity I started reading her thoughts and the kinds of things she would write in her diary as a 26 year old psychology major. I came across a recent diary entry that read something like “we cuddled and it felt good, I can’t wait to see him again”. Meanwhile she was showering me with I love you’s and affection. I soon realized my perfect girlfriend was getting the D from another man while pretending to care about me too. Instead of just being honest about meeting someone new she led me on and made me looking foolish before discarding me completely for her new toy.
Attempt #4 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
This girl was different. She had it all. The perfect body, the beautiful eyes, the perky smile, and very smart. Or so I thought. She was a hostess at a restaurant that I would eat at while traveling for work. One night I invited her out after work and we got chocolate pancakes and ice cream. Later we watched the discovery channel on some deep sea documentaries. It was one of the best nights of my life. She was incredible. My emotions were going full in on this one. She was the one. She was amazing. We talked and dated for a couple months as she lived several hours away. I remember driving out for her birthday and surprising her with some gifts and we hung out and did some other things. A few days later my parents received a call from the sheriff asking for me. I gave them a call and apparently I had been stalking her. After answering some questions the sheriff asked me to describe her apartment. I did, including her bathroom and bedroom. He said, “okay well that doesn’t add up at all.” He said he would call me back if they needed anything else and I never heard from them again. Turns out she was engaged. To this day I think he was a police officer because of what happened. I think she told him I was stalking her and he filed it at his work. Her lie caught up with her when the officers in charge reported back that I was not stalking her. My perfect girl was pregnant and married to another man less than 3 months later. She discarded us both when caught in the lies.
Attempt #5 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
This girl was different. She was sweet, innocent, and caring. She was interested in what I was doing and didn’t seem to care about money or fake things. She had an amazing body and the first time we went at it was intense and fun. We hung out quite often and just did random things together. I thought perhaps it could be a long term thing. I remember there was one night where she changed her mind five or six times about something and I finally said NO. We are going home. She through a temper tantrum threatening me several times to stop the vehicle. I was never fully blue pill but I had a very blue pill mode and a very red pill mode at the same time. Not so much purple but an extreme both ways. This was a red pill moment. Upon arriving home very late, she continued to throw temper tantrums and threatened to walk 20 miles home. She started walking in pitch black country side and my blue pill mode kicked in. I couldn’t reason with her and we ended up walking a mile before she gave up and I walked home, got the truck, and picked her up. I searched and searched on how I could make her happy. A few days later I was up late tinkering with something and I received a call. It was from her. She was drunk. She said “I’m at a guys house right now.” In this conversation she would say how old he was (old, like 45, she was 22-23) and other things like she had stayed there several times before and that she knew him before me. Turns out she was screwing some old dude the entire time. He would give her money and other things and she would pretend to date him. She was like a legal whore presenting herself as a good girl. My innocent girlfriend had become a whore in one phone call.
Attempt #6 at Getting Back My Amazing Girlfriend:
This girl was a master of manipulation. The relationship itself was rushed and we ended up living together on very short notice. Things just kind of happened and we never really even talked about it. There were many red flags that I should have acted upon but the circumstances kept me from doing so. She maintained her innocent sweet mask throughout the relationship but managed to sneak it off almost every day. I never quite understood how it went from a great relationship to arguing and drama over little things every day. No matter how much I tried it was never good enough. She would complain about anything and I would try to fix it. I spent hours online reading about relationships and how to fix it. I would show more affection and actively go out of my comfort zone to show her these things. Meanwhile I was met with abuse and disrespect. After a few big events it finally dawned on me that it was her doing it. She had moved in and out many times creating drama every time. Only to realize it was 100% her later on and ask to come back. I continued fighting and trying to find a way to win her back. It never worked though. I realized I was nothing more than a game for this girl and that she would use me forever if I let her. My great girlfriend turned out to be an emotional vampire. Feeding off my discomfort and pain.
0100111*beep*0101010101101101~[A Glitch in the Matrix]~110010[transmissionterminated]0001011012017-11-14 at 9:03 PM #663626+1
I started at a hotel and there was this Filipino girl that worked in accounting. She eventually made it clear that she was interested in going out to hit up some bars and clubs together. She would drink excessively and behave provocatively as the night progressed. We went out a handful of times and on one of the last nights, we ended up back at her place in her room. I worked graveyard and had to leave but she ripped off her shirt and pulled me in. So I kissed her a little bit and sucked on some nipples before going off to work. A few days later, she asked me to bring something from work to her house in the morning when I got out. She only lived a few miles away. When I got there we met in the living room and sat on the couch. I was so tired I ended up passing out. When I woke up a couple hours later, I went upstairs to say goodbye. When I got to her door, she flipped out and started yelling at me. She said I couldn’t just come up to her room whenever I felt like it. I didn’t even go in, I just leaned against the door frame and started talking. She had a bunch of clothes on the floor and grabbed at them frantically when she heard me start to talk. Maybe she was embarrassed by what she had out. I didn’t see anything but her behavior implied it. I remember thinking about how I was sucking on her t~~~ not even a few days ago and really confused why she would be so mad that I just walked up the stairs to say goodbye. I didn’t want to be rude and disappear. I cut off all contact after that.
She was the kind of girl that would get really drunk and claim not to remember how she acted or what she did/said the night before. I seriously probably dodged a rape charge on that one.2017-12-04 at 2:54 PM #682399+1
Don’t have a ton of dating history, but via internet dating got hooked up with a single mom of three kids who lived a couple of hours away. She came down to my house without even knowing me and while we kissed a little bit, we slept in separate rooms. The next weekend on Sunday I was up her way to attend a ball game, and she insisted that I stop at her house for breakfast (it was a bit out of my way, but figured what the hell). She insisted that I stop at her house on the way home, which I did. Her kids go to bed, and as I’m standing in her kitchen, she starts pulling my shirt out of my pants and putting her hands up my back. She leads me to the couch and we end up making out on the couch with me feeling her up (she was well-endowed).
Long story short, we end up having sex a couple of weeks later, and for the next two months we would see each other on weekends and have lots of sex (and I have to admit that the sex was great). However, also realized that she had some issues, and tried to break up with her over Thanksgiving. End up getting back with her because I missed the sex, and we were together a couple more weeks, and I finally ended it, or so I thought.
A few weeks after I met my wife, I was home alone on a Saturday night (my future wife was out of town with her family), and the ex calls me at home. We end up with some phone sex, and next thing I know she’s driving down to my house and ends up getting to my place in the middle of the night. We have sex, but in the morning I realize that she’s bad news, and tell her that it’s over. That leads her to go nuts on me, and she finally leaves. A couple of weeks later she sends me an email saying that she’ll be in town with her daughter for something, and I’m totally freaked out. She ends up not coming by, and the storm passes. She’s actually tried to contact me in the intervening 15 years, but I’ve never replied to her.2018-01-10 at 3:51 PM #713231+1
This gif (if it works) says it all…
Been Spending Most Of Life Living In A Bachelors Paradise2018-01-18 at 11:24 PM #720642+1
Jesus Christ. Some of these stories are horrific. I am so glad that I never dated/married…2018-01-19 at 6:26 AM #720761+1
my ex stole my phone when I was sleeping and unfollowed in my profile all girls on instagram2018-01-20 at 1:04 AM #721347+2
She had spent some years in the nuthouse just prior to meeting me, but hid it well for a while, because she was on her meds and fresh out of therapy (she kept all of this a secret from me btw). She had a clinically-diagnosed car-crash death wish that both her and her parents never bothered telling me about, even after 2 near-death experiences on the road with her at the wheel when I was a passenger. The only reason I found out about her condition was because her behavior became so erratic she could not cover it up any longer. We had a big scene where I challenged her about her s~~~ and all the truth finally came out. She ended up tearfully admitting to me that she had stopped taking her medication because she was “so in love” with me that she didn’t think she needed it any more. Well, thanks for that babe… I ditched her the next day.2018-01-20 at 1:38 AM #721353+1
I ditched her the next day.
You’re very lucky you got away “clean”. Women like her don’t take break-ups too well and can cause a lot of s~~~ before the fact that they’re insane gets acknowledged.
The “car crash death wish” bit made laugh because it reminded me of Christopher Walken’s scene in Annie Hall. I loathe Woody Allen and wouldn’t cross the street to p~~~ in his mouth if his teeth were on fire. I also think Diane Keaton is a waste of skin. Sadly, you get stuck watching a movie sometimes and Walken’s scenes were about the only ones I laughed at.
Allen is playing his usual character, the one which makes you think maybe Hitler was right, and is visiting Keaton’s family. Walken is Keaton’s brother and feels the need to confide this to Allen:
Can I confess something? I tell you this as an artist, I think you’ll understand. Sometimes when I’m driving… on the road at night… I see two headlights coming toward me. Fast. I have this sudden impulse to turn the wheel quickly, head-on into the oncoming car. I can anticipate the explosion. The sound of shattering glass. The… flames rising out of the flowing gasoline.
A few scenes later, Allen needs to get to the airport and the family has Walken drive him there at night.
Watching that little pedophile s~~~ himself in the car’s passenger seat made me laugh out loud.
#ICETHEMOUT Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.2018-01-22 at 12:50 AM #722710+1
Yes, OldBill, that quote sounds very much like what was going on in her head. Before she was committed by her parents, she unsuccessfully tried to kill herself in a car several times. Turning the wheel suddenly was something she tried on me – I grabbed it just as quickly to stop her killing us both.
Unfortunately, I did not get away clean: she spent months trying to get back together with me. It got to the point where she was crank calling at 2 am and calling me 4-letter names, and even getting her relatives to ring me up and abuse me. For several weeks I just disconnected my phone. She also instilled a life-long distrust of women in me, so I can at least thank her for that.2018-01-22 at 2:55 AM #722735+1
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