France, after banning surrogacy, to offer free IVF to single women and lesbians

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  • #912548
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    I just started reading A Brave New World again. Im convinced that much of the ideas, Not All of Them, should be aimed for by our society BUT IM IN IMAGINATION LaND. lol.

    If humanity as a whole is likened to a stumbling man who just cant stand up, I dont think we have it in us as a species to stride. We are as a whole, ill equipped genetically and too far gone memetically. At this point, serious bottlenecking of genepools and memepools must occur. Both mean HUGE body counts.

    For example. Selective breeding and/or GeneMods are likely to start another WW. If you think about it, thats what WW2 was all about. Hate to say it but the Nazis, though they were demented and misguided, were generally headed in the right direction (albeit in a hideously racist way). Germans have always led science and human progress to a significant degree. The Nazis werent all bad, as bad as that sounds lol. History tends to overtly demonize losing armies.

    #912549
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    but there IS an issue with maladaptive breeding. I swear to god its true, just look around! Fvcking DUMB people bro (no matter the color) just really dumbass people multiplying and clearly intelligent people resigned into solitude, sexless exile. The birthrate is tanking, but whats worse is that the births that are happening, its a bunch of donkeys. LOL

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    I just started reading A Brave New World again. Im convinced that much of the ideas, Not All of Them, should be aimed for by our society BUT IM IN IMAGINATION LaND. lol.

    On the contrary – that is precisely where we are headed.

    but there IS an issue with maladaptive breeding. I swear to god its true, just look around! Fvcking DUMB people bro (no matter the color) just really dumbass people multiplying and clearly intelligent people resigned into solitude, sexless exile. The birthrate is tanking, but whats worse is that the births that are happening, its a bunch of donkeys.

    Yes, but this is no accident.

    The elite intends that the human population be reduced by 95% (it’s no secret, if anyone cares to look), but they can’t do this overtly. To do this, society must be broken down and the population degraded to the level of half-witted, drug soaked monkeys.

    #912567
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    I agree with you Monk. It cant be long now because the Soma runneth over. The masses get their ‘scripts and dope everyday, ever oblivious. Lol… but things dont happen that fast…

    The thing with Huxleys Brave New World is that, ofcourse, the totalitarian symbolism and figurative examples he is making are to be avoided by any sane person.

    But that is the paradox of his book. In his grand vision of a future, its only half dystopian crapchute. The other half is PREFERABLE if I may say so.

    Namely, in the fact that human reproduction by way of women and traditional relationships has been totally excised from civilization. This is preferable. All the needless turmoil, misery and poverty created by women controlling reproduction (haphazardly as they do) is gone. Sexual intercourse, being inconsequential in the brave new world, is no longer repressed and shamed, on the contrary it is celebrated by all openly and communally.

    In our world today, sex is still repressed memetically. Its a dirty thing left to dirty Apps and illegal prostitution. Many are shamed by it, in fear of it, monopolizing it, never getting it… and the end product of sex today is a human that is substandard, unwanted and left to fill boots he’s incapable of filling.

    I would rather live in A Brave New World than this one. Maybe 200 years from now… certainly not soon. The drugged netherapes are in the way

    #912588
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    Agree.

    Many claim to be ‘free’. but as long as they are governed by sex desire, they aren’t.

    I think it will be a combination of Huxleys ‘Brave New World’ and Orwells ‘1984’. Take the the eugenics from Huxley and the complete elimination of sex from Orwell (skip the political aspects and look at the ‘Anti-sex League’).

    The relentless promotion of unfettered sex in Huxley is an intermediate stage before its complete elimination. We are seeing that step right now.

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    France, after banning surrogacy, to offer free IVF to single women and lesbian couples.

    Where are they going to get the sperm? Last I heard, the EU started nailing sperm donors for child support and so donations dried up because it turns out men aren’t all idiots after all. Who knew?.

    France is just posturing

    France is panicking because the Muslims are outbreeding them. Paid for by France’s own socialism.

    the truth is, women dont want kids

    Until it’s too late to have them. There are a LOT of post-wall women with severe reproductive regrets. And they definitely don’t want to pay for their kids themselves. That’s true for all women.

    But that is not our problem.

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    a LOT of post-wall women with severe reproductive regrets

    women have an insatiable complex. Their entire life is just a campaign of using objects to attempt to change the way they feel. Penultimate addict, compulsory behavior.

    the list is endless, a series of objects and people they gobble up into their unquenchable gullets. Having a child of their own, is just another of these pathological crisis’. Usually women are too inconfident so they fill that hole with a cat or dog ‘until a certain age.’ Other women are reckless and start spawning “living dolls” right away but this is becoming less frequent.

    The Lamiae gobbles up the children. I use the term figuratively, but in real life, women murder children all the time and may even start eating them soon.

    #912631
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    women have an insatiable complex.

    People who don’t have to work for anything, want everything.

    The Lamiae gobbles up the children.

    So long as I don’t have to pay for those children…

    …oh wait. I do. That’s the problem.

    I honestly couldn’t give a fu​ck what women do, so long as they pay for it themselves. But they don’t.

    #912710
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    Where are they going to get the sperm? Last I heard, the EU started nailing sperm donors for child support and so donations dried up because it turns out men aren’t all idiots after all. Who knew?.

    😀
    Wait, that’s Episode 2
    It’ll need at least a couple of years before going on air
    😀

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    I hope we never see universal healthcare in this country because the government will end up dictating to us we have to pay for dumb s~~~ like this. Women using birth control all through their reproductive primes just to find out they waited too long to have kids and now their eggs are dried up isn’t a medical condition, its stupidity. Women wanting to “have a kid” with another woman isn’t a medical condition, its stupidity.

    Its also bulls~~~ they straight up ban, not refuse to pay for, just straight up ban a man’s route to having his own biological children without a woman who has any legal claim to cash or child beyond the agreed upon amount to be a surrogate, yet they are 100% about funding ways for women to have children without a man having any legal claim to the kid.

    From a standpoint of cost effectiveness, I was under the impression that surrogacy was a relatively successful procedure that wasn’t all that expensive, where as IVF is stupidly expensive with an abysmal success rate in women who are attempting it because they can’t conceive naturally. I suppose a young, healthy lesbian might be the outlier here, but if they want kids in an un-natural manner let them pay out of pocket. If the goal here is population growth they literally banned the more efficient method.

    #912746
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    Women using birth control all through their reproductive primes just to find out they waited too long to have kids and now their eggs are dried up isn’t a medical condition, its stupidity. Women wanting to “have a kid” with another woman isn’t a medical condition, its stupidity.

    It’s also child abuse.

    Have you seen the statistics for children raised by single mothers and lesbian couples? Those poor kids. Especially the sons.

    I was under the impression that surrogacy was a relatively successful procedure that wasn’t all that expensive, where as IVF is stupidly expensive with an abysmal success rate in women who are attempting it because they can’t conceive naturally.

    Pretty much.

    Say you need a daily commuter car. Surrogacy is like leasing a new Camry for a year, while IVF on a post-Waller is like trying to restore a rusted out barn find Edsel with no drive train. Sure it’s possible to rebuild the Edsel, but it’s going to cost you a fu​ckload of money, and the result will be unreliable and full of autism.

    I don’t want my tax dollars restoring any Edsels. Why don’t we just cut off the welfare? Then all these lonely post-Wall cat ladies can adopt all the children of single mothers who aren’t getting monthly checks for them any more. Win-win.

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