If Responsible Men Walked Away

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  • #893417
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    Zoidberg
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    Imagine if responsible men packed their bags and left their societies—all at once. Imagine if they all got tired of the nonsense they had to put up with (particularly in Western, feminist-loving nations), and decided to buy land and form their own nations. Who would run the nations that are left behind? […] So after the party is over, they will realize that someone needs to clean up the streets, collect the garbage, and drive the garbage trucks to the landfills. Any volunteers?

    They would just round up men à la Stalin. Humans are all over the globe, you can’t walk away anymore, and disappear in some forest.

    #893422
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    Faust For Science
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    Oh dear. Men are not going to stop working if their families’ and their own lives depend on it.

    The nuclear family has all but been destroyed.

    You think a man, whom is divorce, with the courts taking everything he had and his kids away from him, to his ex-wife whom will teach his kids to hate him, along with the courts forcing him to pay alimony and child-support, is going support this corrupt system. Hell no.

    Jobs will be made easier for all with tech.

    Do you even understand the concept of modern technology. At consumer level things are “easier”, but the manufacturing, maintaining, and repair of technology is now far harder and more costly.

    The more complex the machine, the more chance something will break within the machine.

    Chances are the fuel and electrical systems will be what gives out first.

    The state of things will repulse intelligent men, but only a small proportion will ‘quit’ in the way you are suggesting.

    It is likely our definitions of “intelligent men” is different.

    You likely look at the term from a academic standpoint, while I look at the term from a pragmatic standpoint.

    The rest will carry on because they HAVE TO or because they KNOW it will allow them continued access to their MASTER, i.e. their woman.

    See the comment above on the destruction of the nuclear family.

    What you are quoting is Marxist fantasy.

    I did not realize I was quoting Marxism. LOL!

    To understand my point of view, I consider the MAGA movement to be a Marxist workers movement.

    #893424
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    Faust For Science
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    They would just round up men à la Stalin. Humans are all over the globe, you can’t walk away anymore, and disappear in some forest.

    The problem is that is that the elitists have taken almost everything from intelligent men, they have yet to take the intelligent men’s guns.

    Over 400 million pistols and rifles in private hands in this nation, and trillions of rounds of ammo for those firearms.

    It is never a wise idea to attempt to enslave an armed population. That could create a situation where those doing the enslaving end up becoming the slaves.

    #893426
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    Narwhal
    narwhal
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    There is a sci-fi book I read a few years back that had a similar idea. “A Learning Experience” by Christopher Nuttall. The main characters of the novel where some guys living in Montana farmlands , ex-military I believe. Alien scouts with superior technology attacked them, but the guys were able to outsmart them and steal their ship. This resulting in them being able to live comfortably in orbit without government interference in any way. Of course, the US government insisted that the tech was the property of the government, but they had no leverage since they now had inferior military. The guys declared themselves their own nation. The rest of the story is how they then leverage their superior tech to make deals with the US and other governments. They were able to provide medical, food, etc to people on their own terms without the interference of government.

    The point was basically to illustrate how government screws everything up, the nature of man, how things could be if decisions were made with logic instead of emotion, etc. Actually, I’ve read several of his books and this a common theme throughout. His characters tend to be military figures who make decisions logically and fully utilize the strength, logic, and creative of humans to succeed in life, while pointing out how societies who are selfish and corrupt fall apart. The Empires Corp is another series.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #893427
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    Narwhal
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    Chances are the fuel and electrical systems will be what gives out first.

    I haven’t been studying Venezuela too much, but it seems that food shortages were occurring first, and they are now at the black out stage.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #893428
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    Anonymous
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    You think a man, whom is divorce, with the courts taking everything he had and his kids away from him, to his ex-wife whom will teach his kids to hate him, along with the courts forcing him to pay alimony and child-support, is going support this corrupt system. Hell no.

    Yes, because they will engineer the situation where it is still the best choice for MOST MEN.

    Do you even understand the concept of modern technology. At consumer level things are “easier”, but the manufacturing, maintaining, and repair of technology is now far harder and more costly.

    The more complex the machine, the more chance something will break within the machine.

    Chances are the fuel and electrical systems will be what gives out first.

    As already mentioned, there will be enough men capable of maintaining these systems, to maintain these systems. You’re just deluded if you think there won’t be enough men able and willing to do this.

    It is likely our definitions of “intelligent men” is different.

    You likely look at the term from a academic standpoint, while I look at the term from a pragmatic standpoint.

    It matters little. As mentioned intelligent men will be repulsed BUT STILL DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS TOO MUCH TO BEAR. You are making the false (I believe) assumption that most intelligent men will go MGTOW!

    See the comment above on the destruction of the nuclear family.

    Irrelevant. Kids or not, most men are going to want a pussy to call their own. And for access to that pussy they MUST do as they’re told. I mean really, can’t you see this?

    I did not realize I was quoting Marxism. LOL!

    To understand my point of view, I consider the MAGA movement to be a Marxist workers movement.

    I mean Marxist in the sense of the oppressed class revolting. Well, MGTOW is a revolt of sorts, but it’s fantasy to believe it’ll be a majority mob or even enough to effect any substantial change.

    My general refutation is that responsible men walking away won’t achieve f~~~ all. It’s not achieving f~~~ all now. The ONLY way is if there is some mass increase in awareness.

    #893431
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    IMickey503
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    First will be the water and piping, as pipes given out and water services start having water that is toxic. (This is already happening. There are some places in the U.S. were tap water is toxic. Also, the piping in some cities, such as NYC is so bad that it is estimated lost 25% of the water pumped to leaks in the piping systems.)

    Boy, that means that there is going to be a TON of work to do. Hell, you can’t treat the water with more orthophosphate treatments forever. Its a long time coming to upgrade are infrastructure. And the CITY is doing everything it can to keep up with demand. You just can’t do this kind of work overnight. It takes time. And MAN POWA!

    Flint, Michigan for example has been working overtime to get at least 6,000 homes a year done. And, they are as usual, falling behind. Notice not many female workers doing the work. Can’t imagine why. 🙂

    I guess you pay for what you get. Seems like some of the work done they have to redo. Woops. Hard to imagine who they hired to do the job. Well. I’m sure this will all be another democratic success story.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #893438
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    Gravel Pit
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    The reality is they wouldn’t last a week. Women are very stupid. They walk into walls and are scared/confused by their shadows. They can’t understand simple social principles like not reneging on a deal. They also can’t understand simple machines like a Lever. Seriously, if most men up and left, women would perish inside a month. Most would die of starvation in about 3 weeks, after the can foods run out and no trucks come.

    Their luxurious lives would be OVER the same day men leave because iPhone and SUV repairs would be DONE. LOL

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #893440
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    Ranger One
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    There is a sci-fi book I read a few years back that had a similar idea. “A Learning Experience” by Christopher Nuttall. The main characters of the novel where some guys living in Montana farmlands , ex-military I believe. Alien scouts with superior technology attacked them, but the guys were able to outsmart them and steal their ship. This resulting in them being able to live comfortably in orbit without government interference in any way. Of course, the US government insisted that the tech was the property of the government, but they had no leverage since they now had inferior military. The guys declared themselves their own nation. The rest of the story is how they then leverage their superior tech to make deals with the US and other governments. They were able to provide medical, food, etc to people on their own terms without the interference of government.
    The point was basically to illustrate how government screws everything up, the nature of man, how things could be if decisions were made with logic instead of emotion, etc. Actually, I’ve read several of his books and this a common theme throughout. His characters tend to be military figures who make decisions logically and fully utilize the strength, logic, and creative of humans to succeed in life, while pointing out how societies who are selfish and corrupt fall apart. The Empires Corp is another series.

    I’ve put that book on my wishlist now…

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #893443
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    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    10011

    But most of you are too pussified to do so. Lol. Shame on you!

    This thread is almost Hermit and Colin duking it out for who has the bigger can of whoop ass in a gibberish factory. Time to get a some breakfast. Yell at some Homeless people to get on welfare, and Enjoy being and asshole the way GOD intended man to be.

    I’m telling you MGTAOIST. I’m gonna change your tune and have you singing to the Roaring 2o’s.

    Except this time, the phrase will be. DANCE BITCH DANCE!

    The 1920’s KICKED ASS if you knew how to Jam. I’m telling you brother, ITS DUE!

    Its time for at least in the US to party and show the world how its done. F~~~ the world, its time to think for ourselves. WE EARNED IT.

    Time to be as chauvinist at possible, and say F~~~ YEA I AM!

    Germany is going to throw the f~~~ up when it comes to being last to party. You don’t think the Germans are going to take being second at partying do you?

    Fun is NOT going to the movies, sitting on your ass, or f~~~ing being on your computer.

    You can DJ all you want. But there is NOTHING better then LIVE. And LIVE means LIFE.

    So sign up for MAKE 2020 like 1920!

    I’m tired of being depressed. I’m tired of caring about s~~~ that no longer involves me. I’m a SINGLE MAN and I WILL NEVER GO BACK!

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #893448
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    Narwhal
    narwhal
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    I’ve put that book on my wishlist now…

    If I remember correctly, one or more of these guys is married. I think one was an Asian Dr. that hates feminism or something. Fore warning, although I don’t imagine it will offend MGTOW sensibilities.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #893451
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    End
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    242

    Ironically, food and item delivery is one of the last things to stop due to such services being on the back end of production. First will be the water and piping, as pipes given out and water services start having water that is toxic.

    Maybe 10 or so years ago I recall some corporation (don’t remember the name) had to close their offices (15-20 story office tower) because of a failure in the water system/pumps etc.. They sent everyone home (lasted 3-4 days) since there was no water in the building, no toilets etc.. Electricity fine, HVAC fine, computers fine, network fine, but no water and everything comes to a screeching halt. It’s interesting that it takes so little to cause major disruptions in an advanced, highly specialized, society.

    #893453
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    Ranger One
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    Electricity fine, HVAC fine, computers fine, network fine, but no water and everything comes to a screeching halt. It’s interesting that it takes so little to cause major disruptions in an advanced, highly specialized, society.

    It was Jared Diamond’s observation in “Collapse” that society’s become more complex as they solve problems, and that they become more vulnerable to collapse as they become more complex. (multiple points of failure, and people being extreme specialists)

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #893454
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    End
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    >It was Jared Diamond’s observation in “Collapse” that society’s become more complex as they solve problems, and that they become more vulnerable to collapse as they become more complex. (multiple points of failure, and people being extreme specialists)

    so true

    #893455
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    Faust For Science
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    21282

    I haven’t been studying Venezuela too much, but it seems that food shortages were occurring first, and they are now at the black out stage.

    That is because the farming in that nation collapsed before the fuel did.

    In the U.S. there is vastly more food production than fuel production and refinement.

    #893460
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    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
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    21282

    Boy, that means that there is going to be a TON of work to do. Hell, you can’t treat the water with more orthophosphate treatments forever. Its a long time coming to upgrade are infrastructure. And the CITY is doing everything it can to keep up with demand. You just can’t do this kind of work overnight. It takes time. And MAN POWA!

    The NYC water project plan, that is only a few years from finishing, is to an underground tunnel, connected to a water that is further land, to shunt more water into the NYC pipes at a high pressure. They believe they can simply sent more water through the system at a high pressure to deal with the leaks in the faulty system. There is a real chance that doing so will break their water system in countless places underground, where it is hard to get to.

    That is not even mentioning how NYC’s politics and taxes are reaching a point that middle-class is abandoning the city, with NYC looking to go the way of Detroit.

    Maybe in fifty years we will see parts of NYC turned back into farmland.

    #893461
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    Ranger One
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    16527

    Big cities end up as giant s~~~ stains on a country.

    I liken them to pus-filled cysts. Full of thugs, criminals, degenerates, Marxists, leftists, welfare recipients, drug addicts — the very flower of humanity.

    It says something about the Democratic party having the big cities as their main power base.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #893465
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    Imagine if responsible men packed their bags and left their societies—all at once. Imagine if they all got tired of the nonsense they had to put up with (particularly in Western, feminist-loving nations), and decided to buy land and form their own nations. Who would run the nations that are left behind?
    I would particularly enjoy watching, from a distance, how these nations will operate with a population of these individuals:
    1. Loud-mouthed feminists with outrageous hair colouring.2. University-indoctrinated/liberal arts majoring snowflakes who need to be sheltered from inconvenient facts and hard labor.3. Welfare recipients with no goals for the future and are not willing to work.4. Jobless men who impregnate welfare moms, breed juvenile delinquents, and spend half their lives in prison.5. Criminals and Prisoners.6. Violent refugees who take advantage of socially liberal government policies.7. Homeless people and bums killing themselves with alcohol and drugs.8. Slutty, hypergamous women who go to nightclubs looking to hook up with Chad and Tyrone.9. A bunch of spoiled, bratty, gender-confused kids who don’t know that Chad and Tyrone are their biological fathers.
    Now, I imagine the rabid, green-haired feminists will have one big celebration when the last few responsible men get aboard an airplane, along with those that work in the TSA, and fly away. They’ll be out in the streets dancing and drinking c~~~tails. No more “toxic” men passing laws to maintain social order. They are totally empowered and free to rule the land. They can finally have an all-female government.
    So after the party is over, they will realize that someone needs to clean up the streets, collect the garbage, and drive the garbage trucks to the landfills. Any volunteers? Don’t ask the women in the fancy dresses or the transvestite men. They might break a nail. The criminals and bums won’t do it either. So the femtards will probably gather up some money and pay a few bull dykes to do the job, but there won’t be enough of them to get it all done. The garbage will just pile up in the streets, and stink up the neighborhoods. Then rats and flies will swarm around their houses and spread diseases. Just imagine a group of angry women—in a town hall meeting—trying to persuade each other to do the dirty work!
    Besides that, they will have to learn how to operate the power and water purification plants, they’ll need truck drivers and cargo ship captains to transport food and merchandise to their retail stores, and they’ll need to hire police officers and fire fighters to rescue people during a crisis.
    I also imagine that, here in my beloved USA, they’ll replace President Trump with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She’ll immediately fire all the ICE agents and order all Mexican border fences to be demolished. Then anyone, and I mean ANYONE, can just walk into the United States, get pregnant/get someone pregnant, and collect a welfare check. But wait—where’s the money going to come from to pay for welfare, universal healthcare, and food stamps? Well, the femtards and snowflakes will suddenly see their income taxes go up to 50%. That means they can’t have extra money to go shopping at the mall. Boo hoo. And they can’t get mall money from a responsible, hard-working husband/father either. What a shame. I guess they’ll just have to vote to increase minimum wage because “equal pay” wasn’t enough.
    Since most prison guards used to be responsible men, there will be a massive shortage of people guarding the prisons. Within a week, the prisoners will find a way to break through the walls and gain their freedom. That’s when the robbing and raping will begin. The feminists will go crazy and demand that their soy boys (who were hiding behind their skirts) “man up” and arrest the criminals. The soy boys will arm themselves with broom handles—because their communities voted to ban firearms—and try their best to protect the women from gangs, suicide-bombing jihadists, serial killers, etc. When the criminals break into the military armories, they’ll get ahold of weapons of mass destruction. Then the whole scene will be like the movie, The Purge.

    Nuclear and power plants. All that stuff, who runs it?

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #893466
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    The reality is they wouldn’t last a week. Women are very stupid. They walk into walls and are scared/confused by their shadows. They can’t understand simple social principles like not reneging on a deal. They also can’t understand simple machines like a Lever. Seriously, if most men up and left, women would perish inside a month. Most would die of starvation in about 3 weeks, after the can foods run out and no trucks come.
    Their luxurious lives would be OVER the same day men leave because iPhone and SUV repairs would be DONE. LOL

    Most people, and virtually all women, will not survive long without the internet/smartphones working. Not in todays bunch.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #893467
    +5

    Ironically, food and item delivery is one of the last things to stop due to such services being on the back end of production. First will be the water and piping, as pipes given out and water services start having water that is toxic.

    Maybe 10 or so years ago I recall some corporation (don’t remember the name) had to close their offices (15-20 story office tower) because of a failure in the water system/pumps etc.. They sent everyone home (lasted 3-4 days) since there was no water in the building, no toilets etc.. Electricity fine, HVAC fine, computers fine, network fine, but no water and everything comes to a screeching halt. It’s interesting that it takes so little to cause major disruptions in an advanced, highly specialized, society.

    But think about every other system you named, if any of those went down they’d close the building too. windows dont open for safety, so if hvac gone, its too cold or too hot. if computers or the network are down, probably cant do their jobs. if electeicity gone, computers and network are down, and hvac is down.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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