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    Tim Patten
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    The Men’s Revolution

    Zach Hing, 23, gained his sea legs this year. He tore down the ballasts, stood at the bow, and wielded his keyboard as a weapon. He began recording “red-pill” videos and gained a huge following in just weeks. He spoke about sacred topics such as feminism, Asian-male stereotypes and the border wall, espousing his own truth and, in doing so, he achieved everything of which he had ever dreamed—first and foremost of these being to liberate his voice and express his authentic self without censorship. Zach represents millions of young men today who yearn to be free and want to shape their genuine world view away from societies.
    For eons young men have walked in darkness, being told that they are the woman beaters, rapists and oppressors and not the oppressed. One by one, young men are emerging into the light, they are discovering solidarity among their peers in what has become a modern men’s revolution that could be likened to a pirate ship, where scallywags are sailing under the Jolly Roger’s black flag.
    A Revolution’s Beginnings
    Zach has been red-pilled. As in the cult film The Matrix, he has awakened to an observable reality behind the façade that others continue to see and believe. He has joined his fellow freedom fighters in the battle for equality, justice and a healthy masculinity. The men’s movement sprouted new wings beyond the rights advocates over ten years ago, when two men with b~~~~ of steel began posting YouTube videos under the pseudonyms Barbarossa (bar bar) and Stardust (Thinking-Ape). They questioned the enslavement of men through marriage and society’s acceptance and enforcement of these conditions. Then there appeared another voice online, posting under the pseudonym Sandman. Together these buccaneers walked the plank. Others watched the videos and responded with enthusiasm. The movement dubbed itself Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW). Over the years the movement burgeoned into an unstoppable chorus of masculine voices that are now altering the course of society. By now, thousands have spoken. We will not take the abuse. We will no longer be silent. This is how the revolution was born.
    Men Are Wired Differently from Women
    Biology predisposes the female gender to prioritize socialization and nurturing. Women and girls will, therefore, invest the majority of their time and energy talking and gossiping with other women at social gatherings, seminars, coffee clutches, and meetings about how to understand members of the opposite sex, often with the intention of courting and manipulating them. They bond primarily over discussions of romance, marriage, divorce, humiliation, aggression, and sexual and physical assault. Boys and men, who are biologically programmed to prefer objects and systems, tend to do this type of sharing via the Internet. While both sexes seek to protect themselves from toxic relationships, men conduct their discourse in a public forum where they are under observation and therefore risk incurring harmful societal and institutional consequences that extend beyond their relationships with women.
    In the early days of the MGTOW movement, the majority of information was posted on YouTube, where other men could access it. Some individuals who were not the intended audience viewed these videos and were up in arms about them. They maintained that men should not whine about having to provide for their families; they should shut up and bring home the paycheck.
    Lefties Attack
    Left-wing radicals, fearing that the men’s movement attempted to undercut the very institutions upon which they rely, went on the offensive. They labeled the MGTOW movement a hate group of misogynists, who were abusing their male privilege by speaking out. They flagged videos and leveraged harsh criticism, which resulted in videos being removed or restricted by YouTube management; and they flooded MGTOW activists with hate mail and doxed Barbarossa and others.
    As a result, MGTOW members lost friendships, their careers were threatened, and their families fractured. The Southern Poverty Law Center listed MGTOW as a male supremacist hate group. After all, society teaches that all men are patriarchal oppressors, misogynists, and rapists. And yet, new voices kept joining the fray.
    A Growing Phenomenon
    Today, the MGTOW phenomenon has gained worldwide recognition, with hundreds of thousands of YouTube proponents posting regular content that is bringing new ideas out of the dark cracks and into the light.
    In late 2018, a CNN special (This Is Life with Lisa Ling) featured an interview with Big John and Jerry Liu of MGTOW. Though some criticized the special, many felt that MGTOW was fairly presented as a legitimate group of men fighting discrimination by the legal system and society.
    Set Sail for Full Mainstream
    Red-pill awareness has permeated the cultural consciousness of late. Every day we hear elements of MGTOW’s philosophy being voiced by celebrities and influencers, including Turning Point superstars Candace Owens and Will Witt (the Walkaway advocate). And the themes are heard on popular YouTubers David Ruben, Joe Rogan, and Issac Butterfield, and recently many female YouTubers, have come out in support of MGTOW. Jordan Peterson remains the most influential public figure speaking out about the war on men. Individuals from all walks of life are hearing our message and embarking on the process of waking up. The men’s movement has made it into the mainstream and is set to turn the tide.
    Conclusion

    It is time young men to seize this moment in history and let your own voice join the chorus. Make your stand alongside man regardless of many races, background or position on the gender binary. You will never regret it because you will manifest your truth for healthy self-esteem and sending your voice to help shape a better future. Stand tall with shoulders back and come aboard the rebellion.

    About the Author
    Tim Patten is the author of MGTOW: Building Wealth and Power, a handy investment guide, and MGTOW: Why I Cheat, a collection of campfire stories for men. His latest book Masculinity Is Our Future is available also in audio format. He has devoted his life’s work to celebrating masculinity and is active in the men’s liberation movement.

    #881790
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    Anything I ever write is open domain, free to steal completely by any author. (not that anything I write is worth a damn)

    Stardust

    It’s Stardusk with a K. Sorry, just saying, typo

    Over the years the movement burgeoned into an unstoppable chorus of masculine voices that are now altering the course of society.

    I like the words used in this sentence (great choices) except for ‘movement.’ I know it’s hard to find the appropriate descriptor but movement denotes unity and organization which we’re lacking and denounce. We’re a collection of fierce individuals. About the only thing we agree on is that the juice aint worth the squeeze.

    many felt that MGTOW was fairly presented as a legitimate group of men fighting discrimination by the legal system and society.

    Hate to disagree Tim but MGTOW isn’t fighting anything, that is the MRA goal to fight legal discrimination (which is great, we hope they change things but we doubt it). MGTOW don’t care. Our logo is an empty chair, gone our own way… away from women… to enjoy our solitude and liberty. The main awakening for MGTOW is the realization of women’s evolutionarily-adapted psychological traits; (hypergamy among many). Once you see these instinctual behaviors from women & men, you see that no law is going to alleviate relational problems between women and men. I’m beating a dead horse but contraception, no-fault-divorce and state enforced child support can’t be undone. Strict regulations or the entire abolition of those laws would do alot for men but it’s not possible. So MGTOW are men that recognize the futility of that and also know, that women are programmed by nature to be unfaithful, spoiled and manipulative. We gave up.

    and recently many female YouTubers, have come out in support of MGTOW. Jordan Peterson remains

    Can’t really argue with those facts but it’s disheartening. No woman will ever be accepted to voice anything about MGTOW. Roaming Millennial (and Laci Green and that New York lady) are all trickster hoyden gamine who seduce disenfranchised boys that haven’t yet understood hypergamy. Her reputation is artificial. Jordan Peterson is NOT well liked among MGTOW. His Traditional Conservative attitude about Men in relationships with women is not in the least, amusing to us. His is just another “man up” proponent.

    ** All in all, I think wonderful Tim. Im glad you are still writing and I wish you a Happy New Year full of brotherhood and Prosperity. Careful with misrepresenting MGTOW as MRAs or PUAs. Just saying, no ill will at you bro.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #881792
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    Carnage
    Carnage
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    22083

    What gravel pit said, no movement, no brotherhood, no fight, im just a dead fish in a furious river stream.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #881793
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant
    7852

    Jordan Peterson says “Man Up”

    MGTOW say “Man Out”

    …very different attitude

    PUAs say “I own the pussy”

    MGTOW say “I own a doll”
    (I’m being facetious and disingenuous a little but it’s to illustrate a different attitude about women)

    MRAs say “Paternal Rights Now!”

    MGTOW say “Get a vasectomy” or “expatriate”

    Kay Jewelers says “You’re not just marrying her, you’re marrying her whole world”

    MGTOW say “single motherhood is a stigma, not a status deserving accolades or second chances.”

    The average North American woman at 30 years old has had over 30 sexual partners (to put it modestly!). The average 30 year old male, less than 8, if that!

    I’m turning 33 in March. I’ve slept with 10 women in my life (8 were one-night stands). I’ve been sexually inactive (celibate) for nearly 6 years. I make $35,000 a year, own a condo and a business and have zero debt. I do not drink or smoke, I regularly exercise.

    Name ONE legitimate incentive for me to allow one of these average women (harlots) be the mother of my child. …waiting…crickets… there are no incentives. Its all a terrible risk. A Joke!

    Society continues to prop up and inflate the Sexual Marketplace Value of women. They hype it up as still having dignity and modesty. It doesn’t! My own SMV has now doubled or tripled in relation to women in my peer group. Statistics show beyond a doubt that these peer group women, now having had dozens of previous sexual partners, are guaranteed to divorce me and collect child support from me if I dare to marry one and try to raise a family. No thanks.

    You can’t suddenly promote obedience and virtue to women after you spent 50 years telling them to be bossy, pant-suit wearing lesbians. They are now completely unhinged and dangerous beasts, enjoying a White Knight legal system and perpetually mesmerized by the propagandic solicitations of big corporations. The cucks in power and the cucks trying to make a buck off of women’s capricious materialistic purse power. It’s all a circus man. Im out….

    Even blue-pill male teenagers and twenty-somethings are saying relationships are a waste of time! That should be alarming to us, when conditions in society are trumping the pure-horndog instincts of youthful lust. But to expect regular men from 28-40 to cast a blind eye to women’s excessive privilege and immodest sexcapades? Hell no.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #881797
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    Clu
    Clu
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    I enjoyed the article. However there is a point that I dont see clearly stated:

    The Southern Poverty Law Center listed MGTOW as a male supremacist hate group.

    To call MGTOW “male supremacist” is irrational. Tradcoms are the ones that want women to be lovingly subjected to men to create a new blue pill dream plantation. Female supremacists are feminists, male supremacist is machismo. MGTOW is male INDIFFERENCE to women, a totally different thing.

    As for “hate group”, how can it be hate when men talk about the way UNDESERVING MEN ARE DESTROYED? It is normal to say “men are pigs” yet hateful to say AWALT?
    But it is actually inevitable that in a gynocentric society you cannot criticize the holly vagina. It doesn’t hurt to point out the hypocrisy tho.

    Greetings, programs!

    #881799
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    Tim Patten
    Tim Patten
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    THANK YOU! I am taking very close and careful notes and crafting changes from your feedback. Really incredible feedback. Happy New Year

    #881837
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    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    I enjoyed the article. However there is a point that I dont see clearly stated:

    The Southern Poverty Law Center listed MGTOW as a male supremacist hate group.

    To call MGTOW “male supremacist” is irrational. Tradcoms are the ones that want women to be lovingly subjected to men to create a new blue pill dream plantation. Female supremacists are feminists, male supremacist is machismo. MGTOW is male INDIFFERENCE to women, a totally different thing.
    As for “hate group”, how can it be hate when men talk about the way UNDESERVING MEN ARE DESTROYED? It is normal to say “men are pigs” yet hateful to say AWALT?But it is actually inevitable that in a gynocentric society you cannot criticize the holly vagina. It doesn’t hurt to point out the hypocrisy tho.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center labels anything they don’t like as a hate group, and they are a very left-leaning group. The only reason they are taken seriously in the US is because our journalists lean just as far to the left.

    Antifa is NOT listed as a hate group by SPLC. Go figure. But any group that opposes Planned Parenthood is labeled a hate group. SPLC labels someone a hate group, CNN mentions it over and over again, and suddenly everyone thinks that the group is a hate group. Tell a lie enough times and people will believe it.

    And I agree that MGTOW is not a movement. It’s a personal choice. For me, I’m in my mid 50’s and divorced. Every woman I’ve dated for more than six months has ended up being a cheater, a pathological liar, or my personal favorite, both. So I’m done. I’ve done the cost/benefit analysis and getting married fails the test. I’ve worked very hard my entire life to end up with less than half of what I’ve earned. I’m not splitting that half again. That’s not a movement, that’s my personal experience.

    We all get what we tolerate

    #881840
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    NerdTunneler
    NerdTunneler
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    Again…as others have said…MGTOW is NOT a movement nor does it care to change the world or the status quo…Thats the MRAs or the PUAs…We just want to live our life free…My life, my choice…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #881847
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    Clu
    Clu
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    And I agree that MGTOW is not a movement. It’s a personal choice.

    This is its most disruptive feature. To have a movement there must be an ideal, a goal, an end. There is no such thing with MGTOW.

    There is only knowledge that sets you free. Free from the bondage of societal expectations and exploitation. Free from the traps that use our biology to our detriment.

    This is like nothing that ever was:
    – it is not a fight, because there is nothing to FIGHT FOR.
    – all the knowledge and talk is purely defensive, therefore totally just and rightful.
    – it asks nothing of others, it demands nothing more than to be left alone.

    How can anyone have anything against these things? It only shows their true intentions: to exploit men, deny their freedom, censor their speech.

    Greetings, programs!

    #881865
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    Anonymous
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    Good article, but I don’t think MGTOW is a “movement.” More like a phenomena that is popping up spontaneously all around the world. No organization, no leadership. I was MGTOW before I ever heard of MGTOW. That’s how this is happening. The Youtube stars have coined some cool phrases and now there is a MGTOW slang, but that’s really the only common ground I see.

    #881870
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    MGTOW is very small and easy to make fun of. We’re mocked at first. If you explain what this is to a person who has never heard of the Men’s Rights movement or “Manosphere” or “red pill” … At best, they laugh and disagree. At worst, you get massive judgement and backlash.

    I can tell you why I am here. All it took for me is a woman hurt my feelings. Crazy right? That’s all that happened to me.

    I dated a single mom. We moved in together and lived for 6 months, I loved her and gave her my check every payday. I taught her 5 year old son his ABCs. One day, she miscarried our kid and kicked me to the curb saying we’re finished. I was crushed. The feeling of having been used and being cut off from that “love” was immeasurable.

    Later I recovered from that grief and tried dating, only to find out that all these women had slept with many partners before (even the most modest seeming, “good” women). When I say many partners, I mean that 25-27 year old girls were admitting to me in confidence that they had slept with north of 80 men in their life. One girl I met on okCupid said she’d been with over 100. My number is 10, and even I viewed my own number as too many.

    That is why I quit actively looking for a woman. Mainly because they will hurt your feelings and turn on you and because they are all sluts, even church girls.

    1. They all think they’re badasses who deserve some 6ft tall $100K a year funny man. Yet they themselves are fat-girls with loads of student loan debt, no sense of humor and zero courage or loyalty. They have not ‘saved themselves for marriage,’ are you kidding.

    2. The legal climate is massively stacked against men. To even date a Gash in the #metoo rape world we live in is crazy.

    3. Unless Child Support is banned, I’m staying celibate or getting a vasectomy.

    It’s my strong belief that the failing birthrate and MGTOW topics are going to be front and center in the Media in mid-2020 because of the CENSUS data (or whenever that data becomes available). The problem with modern women is literally affecting our population numbers and it will eventually affect GDP.

    We have ignored the Natural Laws that govern our species. Now the consequences are abounding.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #881932
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    Anonymous
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    Later I recovered from that grief and tried dating, only to find out that all these women had slept with many partners before (even the most modest seeming, “good” women). When I say many partners, I mean that 25-27 year old girls were admitting to me in confidence that they had slept with north of 80 men in their life. One girl I met on okCupid said she’d been with over 100. My number is 10, and even I viewed my own number as too many.

    That was my situation at 20 years old. Tried dating, the women I dated had double digit c~~~ counts. My number is 0 and thats fine with me. I can’t imagine how those same women are now at age 30. We’re talking hundreds…

    #881936
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    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
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    Tim,
    I won’t oppose anything you’ve written here, and I certainly believe that it is well written, and well intended. The only response I would make is that you might add what others here have suggested: MGTOW is more of an individual choice than it is a ‘movement’. I would point out that if there is any societal concern about MGOTW at all, it is focused on the EFFECTS of MGTOW (falling marriage rates, falling birth rates, potential impact on GDP if men are no longer killing themselves to earn as much as possible, then spend it on or give it to women who will immediately spend it… returning it to circulation and stimulating the economy in the process…).

    While it’s easy to see that there is concern over these issues, everyone here is well aware that the concern is for the effects of MGTOW, not the individual men. Whatever else has changed, it remains true that no one cares about us as individual people. There may be concern over the effect on the economy of the earning and spending habits of MGOTW, but there isn’t concern about the individual men who are MGTOW, or the things that inspired that decision. We are as expendable as the soldier, the coal miner or the construction worker ever were. It is only our utility and money, or the absence of it, that create all the new concern. And because the declared MGTOW on this site and others are still such a small number, you can be confident that the concern is about all the potential men out there who may be “at risk” of making this same personal choice.

    These effects are what’s at stake in the outcome. But to call it a ‘movement’ may not be the right word. A movement is organized, has a leader, has goals and strategy and demands etc.

    You can engage with and argue with and negotiate with a movement

    You can’t do any of those things with an empty chair. Often I see MGTOW referred to as if it is a bunch of angry, vocal men who are protesting something, like a union forming a picket line to visibly and loudly protest for better working conditions at a factory. But I see MGTOW as a bunch of men who disappeared from the workforce completely. We didn’t form a union, show up and get vocal. We just quietly, walked away. We were once targets, and we voluntarily chose to become invisible and silent.

    It is not my ‘voice’ that’s being heard, valued, respected and responded to. As a MGTOW, it is my silence and my absence, or the effects thereof, that are being noted and addressed… to the extent that anything about me is being noted and addressed at all. It is only the absence of my utility that anyone cares about now, and only my utility that one ever cared about. And the primary reason that there is any concern about the absence of my utility isn’t that it is not expendable. As one lone person, the absence of my utility wont be felt. The real concern is for all the other men who might be inspired to make their utility similarly absent.

    But it is not me who is inspiring them…

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #881946
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    Twist
    Twist
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    And I agree that MGTOW is not a movement. It’s a personal choice. For me, I’m in my mid 50’s and divorced. Every woman I’ve dated for more than six months has ended up being a cheater, a pathological liar, or my personal favorite, both. So I’m done. I’ve done the cost/benefit analysis and getting married fails the test. I’ve worked very hard my entire life to end up with less than half of what I’ve earned. I’m not splitting that half again. That’s not a movement, that’s my personal experience.

    I could have written every word of ^^^ this. And it’s just that simple. For thousands of years men were aware of the danger of putting their hand in a flame. Then the electric stove was invented. Similar, but subtle difference. Many got burned without seeing the danger. Now we know.

    #881957
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    Autolite
    Autolite
    Participant

    It’s my strong belief that the failing birthrate and MGTOW topics are going to be front and center in the Media in mid-2020 because of the CENSUS data (or whenever that data becomes available).

    I doubt it. MGTOW is mostly a thing with Western men. Western men are already now being replaced/displaced in Western society by non-Western men. This is only going to continue while increasing exponentially…

    #882036
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant
    7852

    (not directed at anyone, just musing)

    I doubt it. MGTOW is mostly a thing with Western men. Western men are already now being replaced/displaced in Western society by non-Western men. This is only going to continue while increasing exponentially…

    I dont think in terms of ‘Western Men’ but if what you’re saying is that MGTOW behavior wont itself be mainstream, Yes I agree, most men wont give up vagina worship… most men keep prodding along.

    But the big picture and big problems cant be ignored anymore. There is no Western Man, only the Modern Man and the Modern Woman in a Modern Technological Society.

    Why is it that 1st world industrial nations have failing birthrate? (Germany, America, Japan and others)

    Because these nations are places where modern ‘medicine’ and technology and feminist legislation/cultural memes flourished. This is the next step of Modern Human Life. You see the modern life played out in a Metroplex city, where women have access to contraception, abortion, child support, welfare, no fault divorce and they are coddled and promoted endlessly by white knights and corporations trying to sell women crap they dont need. When women are distracted by all this crap, they don’t have babies….

    This is where women stopped playing their natural role. Its sort of like taking a Lion off the Savannah and boxing it up at the Zoo and feeding it meow-mix. The lion has instincts to roam and hunt. Its been completely removed from its natural roles and natural environment. Likewise with women, we have completely robbed them of their natural role. This is why they are very unhappy although they have more freedom and power than ever before. They were never evolved to be given the red carpet like this.

    They were never meant to have power, it makes them ill. Its actually hurting our society. No woman wants to be a mother until after she chases the myth that she will wear a pant-suit and be a big time city slicker drinking c~~~tails and bossing men around. And when that whole delusion finally ends, what is she left with but a few abortions and 80 notches on her bedpost. She wakes up at 42 wishing she could have been a mother but its too late. The ones that are successful at retrieving their lost motherhood are having Autistic kids because you’re not supposed to be a mother 20 years after your peak fertility duh…

    But here is my main point. The disease that caused all this is not limited to so-called ‘white’ people (or the western man). The minority groups flooding into these industrial, rich nations, and many of the minority groups who already lived there… they are now living the modern lifestyle too and they will have access to all the goodies of modern living… state sponsored healthcare, abortion on demand, Woman’s Power billboards and more. Your little Muslim girl growing up in Plano Texas… or, whether she is Mexican or Indian… you think your traditional religion and cultural memes will outweigh Beyonce’ and the flood of POP culture and Feminism that is about to poison her Disney mind?? She’s done for and doesn’t stand a chance.

    In this way, modern technology and the denial of sexual dimorphism will ruin ALL human genetic populations. This is the thing that is sending the birthrate into non-replenishment levels. You can’t have a future without bodies. You cant keep servicing the national debt with Tax dollars from people that don’t exist.

    When the Census comes out this time, it will reflect that the problems have only gotten worse. Immigration will not be able to compete with our denial of sexual dimorphism. Hell, we even have an Amendment that embodies our total ignorance.

    Nothing can remedy this problem. All attempts to stop the birthrate from falling will cause panic and outrage. We’re headed for another Great Depression for sure, just based on failing human capital, there are not enough people. And the people that are present are creating a larger and larger welfare state…. it will so bust.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #882054
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    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant
    9949

    Reading this whole thread makes me wonder what happens to men that now have become officially gold. They go out of their way to kill you, steal from you, and here you all are.

    I have no doubt that in 5 years time, MEN like us will no longer be cultural anomalies. Its true that many men will still hold on for the right woman. But I can guarantee you, Marriage is going to be that DEAD end of life. So are relationships.

    Kids of course will still be made. But who is going to care.

    Of course, the pressure will be put on men. But the more they push the more they will push back. There will be a pivotal moment where men will see just how bad the system has gotten. By that time, men will just walk away from it all. They could pass laws and the only thing will happen is men will just tune out.

    Meanwhile, places around the world that do not subscribe to this will be places that will enjoy the most success.

    What will break the camels back will be all the blue pilled guys seeing how wonderful it is to live in that place. And them never being able to get the same. THe shame they are going to throw on men that wish to go there will be extraordinary.

    Basically, the west is going to be the party town. And those that wish to live here will see that. There is going to be no Holidays worth celebrating as people will be Constantly reminded that they do not have anything to celebrate.

    Like I said, it won’t be the laws changing. It will be MEN flooding the places that know they will be able to have that dream life that men had before. But only better.

    However that place will be, or come to existence will be the key.

    It may be rough for us now. But the future? My god, we found the key.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #882098
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant
    7852

    THe shame they are going to throw on men

    It’s already starting. That commercial from Kay Jewelers to encourage men to marry single moms. That was unthinkable 10 years ago. No one in their right mind would have green lite that advert. Now they are getting desperate.

    This is a massive indicator that corporations are losing BIG because relations~~~s are failing. Fewer babies. Im telling you, we’re up against a threshold. We’ve quietly crossed over it and hell is waiting.

    The government and MSM are going to throw a SHAME campaign on men the likes of which you would never believe and they will be desperately trying to get men of all ages to court women in a vain attempt to get the birthrate up and to relieve the stress of the ever-widening welfare state (if she lives at your house and you pay for her to eat, then the government doesn’t have to pay). They need cucks BADLY.

    When massive taxation on bachelors and massive propaganda campaigns to CUCK you all backlash and doesn’t help, that is when it gets interesting. The only solution, I’m telling you, is Surrogacy. At that point, amidst a terrible economic depression and vast welfare state where immigration has all but ceased (because we’re now so bad off that foreigners no longer want to come here) that is when the government will have no other choice but to start employing women to be inseminated and carry full term. Thus, new babies will be born on mass. A new boomer generation. This is the beginning of the new paradigm in Human Reproduction where it becomes un-privatized. This sounds bad but it is actually a massive step forward and will solve a ton of memetic problems. After many years, you will have to have a license to be able carry a pregnancy full term.

    People think this is Sci-Fi… it’s not… it’s 25 years out. This was the inevitable result of feminism, abortion, contraception, no-fault-divorce and child support. We kept telling women, “dont start families… instead, pursue careers” and “you can do anything a man can do.” The Modern Empowered Female decadence will touch all women, including Mexican, Muslim and Asian women. It just happened to get white women first…. but don’t be naive, its coming for us all. This has nothing to do with East or West. It’s Modern Tech meets Modern Ignorant Governing…growing pains of sentience.

    If you doubt this, go study the census numbers yourself. Every ten years, there is a red line that is unmistakable. Im 32 years old. I fully expect to see government paid surrogacy by the time I retire at 65…. The next 25 years is going to be real nasty.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #882101
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    Gravel Pit
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    The government and MSM are going to throw a SHAME campaign on men the likes of which you would never believe and they will be desperately trying to get men of all ages to court women in a vain attempt to get the birthrate up and to relieve the stress of the ever-widening welfare state (if she lives at your house and you pay for her to eat, then the government doesn’t have to pay). They need cucks BADLY.

    Many here think that MGTOW behavior it too rouge, men won’t adopt it. Let me assure you, Im not here because I consciously decided to not court women. I want a relationship and sex badly. The problem is the WOMEN DO NOT WANT REAL RELATIONSHIPS. Im very cuckable lol. All these women have to do is come kiss me and I will put out and pay child support.

    The problem is women are so distracted by the delusions and privileges they enjoy…they wont stay with men. Its to the point now, sex is just a recreational joyride… An adult relationship with a male?! These women are incapable of it! Be a mother? LOLOLOL, are you joking? These women can’t even manage their own lives, much less care for an infant or be loyal to a man.

    They have made a whole generation of women that are retarded. They cant perform their function.

    So the problem is not me. Its not men. We’re easy targets for women and we’re totally available to start families with. The problem is that the modern woman is so polluted by modernity that she is incapable of creating the next generation!

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

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    Tim Patten
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    I have edited the article with your feedback. I appreciate the comments very much. happy new year and be good.

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