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  • #92068
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    Tim Patten
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    Please help criticize this. Help make it something we ‘mostly’ all agree with:

    MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) – The modern men’s liberation movement
    MGTOW is a statement of self-ownership, and, for every man to go his own way and make a logical choice for his well-being. It is a lifestyle; it’s a men’s liberation movement, which frees a man from the patriarchal traditions and expectations of dating and marriage; it’s about individual freedom. MGTOW sometimes is referred to as the Red Pill, or those who see an alternative view. These men empower themselves from subjugation defined by a hierarchical social order that places expectations on men, manning up and in particular, work and marriage. It is growing a global awareness, helping men to avoid possible toxic and dangerous relationships inside a gynocentric culture.
    Some, but not all Men Going Their Own Way are establishing philosophies:
    A. Liberate themselves from a patriarchal rulebook of dating.
    B. Escape the emotional and financial risk involved with marriage.
    C. Reject the role of sole provider , protector or pack mule roles in relationships.
    D. Recognized the financial reality of relationships of today and the future.
    E. Avoid the costs to have and raise children, Vetoing Gods commandments to go forth and multiply.
    F. Empowered against societal male shaming techniques and slogans.
    G. Fights society’s oppressive rules and unfair legal biases constructed against males.

    MGTOW men’s liberation movement is raising consciousness and allowing every man to permit himself to write his own authentic set of rules. Rules that work best for him. MGTOW cannot be labeled. It is inaccurate, and unfair, to pigeonhole ideas and MGTOW come from a variety of backgrounds. It doesn’t matter how old or young, Asian, Latin, black or white, conservative or liberal. There are members across the world. MGTOW are about forging individualized life paths.
    This is a liberty movement mostly of men and considered a brotherhood, but some women have discovered WGTOW too.

    MGTOW‘s first appearance:
    Many social and economic factors are cited in playing a role in this phenomenon, but MGTOW appears to have been inspired by the Japanese Herbivore or grasseaters who are a social phenomenon in Japan of men who shun marriage or gaining a serious girlfriend. Japan’s gender equality term was first coined by Maki Fukasawa in an article published on 13 October 2006 and became a buzzword in 2008 and 2009.[7][8][9][10] Now under the MGTOW moniker, the ideology has spread across every major nation under the acronym. Men are becoming aware of dangerous relationships inside a gynocentric patriarchy . In 2008 or so, marriage issues began to appear on YouTube, written and recorded by anonymous men with pseudonyms Stardusk, Barbarossa and other innovators of forward thinking. The initial videos attracted attention and quickly spread. Now hundreds of Youtube videos are posted every day, like Sandman videos that offer a daily dose of the Red Pill.

    How MGTOW is Cultivated:
    Men do not have and authorized college level men’s studies or gender studies, so individuals take on and share their message with others. It is a coalition of sharing that fuels the connection and consciousness raising. Today, social media such as Facebook, Reddit and YouTube are methods where MGTOW connect and share. Men reveal enlightened experiences and discoveries. There are also forums where stories are shared such as MGTOW.COM. Often someone discovers this movement after one or more very relationships become toxic, explaining any anger and pain.

    Common misconceptions about the men’s movement MGTOW:
    The men’s rights myth: Some people believe that MGTOW is an ideology that splintered off from the Men’s Rights Movement. And for some, they might have been introduced through MRA connections, but today, more and more members find the movement through MGTOW channels. We know that many MGTOW have found the lifestyle that serves those best and most are not advocates for men’s rights.
    The sexless myth
    : Some people claim MGTOW ban sex with women. A small group of men may be asexual, but most continue sexual relationships with women.
    The hate myth: This tsunami of consciousness it is mistakenly called a “rage against women” and “misogynistic”, these men are actually discovering freedom, fulfillment of dreams, sex, and love, as they dodge proverbial bullets and tunnel under razor wire. They love women. Many men have suffered devastating financial and emotional pain or loss in relationships, marriages and divorces with females and find MGTOW for emotional support. They are allowed a safe place to vent.
    Wind society backwards myth: Some wonder if the movement wants to take society backwards to ownership of another gender and oppressing women. MGTOW are moving the male society forward. The liberation is uncovering alternatives for young boys to fit into.
    The gay, cry baby or sissy myth
    : The overwhelming majority of MGTOW is not gay. They date and enjoys women but avoid any living arrangement that might douse their life ambitions. Each individual is creating their own path. The movement is ubiquitous.

    POPULAR MGTOW BOOKS and WEB SITES
    MGTOW.com
    Reddit.com

    The Manipulated Man
    Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream – and Why It Matters

    The Rational Male
    Why I Cheat; Men Marriage and Cheating
    Stand By Your Manhood: A Game-Changer for Modern Men

    Maybe add “No more Mr. Nice Guy By Robert Glover
    Venus: The Dark Side

    #92081
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    BadKan
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    Why try to make Mgtow “politically correct”?

    This defies the very essence of Mgtow…

    "I rather die free, than live as a slave"

    #92095
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    FullMetalExo
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    Why try to make Mgtow “politically correct”? This defies the very essence of Mgtow…

    I agree, and its BS (“patriarchy …what?). But this line was great.

    I want to be “free from “patriarchy” aswell, thanks feminism !

    A. Liberate themselves from a patriarchal rulebook of dating. B. Escape the emotional and financial risk involved with marriage.

     

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    Keymaster
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    “The modern men’s liberation movement”

    OK as long as we are criticizing….. all fine except that ^^^. STRONGLY disagree with that. Keep the “liberation movement” lingo out of it. We’re not slaves or enslaved unless we want to be (i.e dumb enough to sign a marriage contract) and equating MGTOW to some clambering for “liberation” is not really wrong – per se – but twist it around to mean “preserving your sovereignty” and you are closer to the real thing.

    Just speaking openly here….

    Young men aren’t actually “slaves”. Unconstitutional forced slavery exists (for example) if you are ordered to pay child support for a kid that’s not yours. But in the case of husbands….. HE SIGNED THE CONTRACT. He put those shackles on himself. Just because there exists a general mentality that you SHOULD be a “slave” the whims of a female doesn’t mean you ARE FORCED to be. Refusing to do so is not “liberation”.

    “Alimony or prison” is another way in which men are enslaved – and so is being duped into fatherhood without your knowledge or consent – but also a by-product of signing the contract. Liberation is the wrong idea because you’re free as long as you say “no”.

    The word “movement” is all wrong. MGTOW is not a group like a school of fish that go their own way together. It’s a population of individuals. Calling it a “liberation movement” is altogether totally incorrect and should be avoided.

    Since the slavery is 100% avoidable by HIM, a man just has to not sign up for it.

    Feminism is a “movement”. Slutwalks are a “movement”. Gay pride / marriage is a “movement”. An active common goal. A group who collect, have meetings, conferences, events etc. and they depend on funding for their success. MGTOW is nothing of the sort. The “end game” is different for everyone. MGTOW don’t have parades and don’t shut down streets or traffic to get noticed or generate support.

    Women called for “liberation” as if they were “oppressed”.
    MGTOW definitely should stay away from that at all costs.

    The hate myth

    That’s way too easy to disapprove because MGTOW treat women better than they deserve. You will never see a MGTOW knocking a drink out of a woman’s hand at Starbucks, setting her hair on fire, keying her car just because she is female, or even just yelling at her for that reason. That would be “hate”. The opposite of love is not “hate”…. it’s indifference. If anyone is “hating” …. women HATE indifference. That’s not a MGHOW’s problem.

    MGTOW are often accused of “hating women” but it’s actually women who hate MGTOW. Women really do have a problem with a free and content man and project all kinds of “misogyny” on him. They actually work to make it HIS problem. But you will never see a MGTOW treat women as bad as women treat themselves – or each other. You will never see a MGHOW stick his finger down a woman’s throat to get her to lose weight, but countless women do that to themselves.

    MGTOW are much nicer to women than women deserve. That’s a fact. I said “good morning” to a female neighbor in an elevator once. She didn’t reply and kept staring at her phone. I didn’t knock her phone out of her hands or smash it on the ground, even though she was totally devoid of manners. I treated her better than she deserved. Nobody gets to accuse me of “misogyny”, because I treat women better than they deserve. So does every member here. Damn near guaranteed.

    MGTOW‘s first appearance.

    WAY EARLIER than 2009. The earliest in-print reference we have from a newspaper is 1835 – using the EXACT words “Men Going Their Own Way”. We have 12 more through late 1800s post WWI and WWII and mid 1900’s. These are actual magazine and news cutouts / quotes. At war time, they were considered the “men that refused to fight”…. (and in those days that meant “coward”).

    Galileo was a MGTOW in EVERY way.
    You could even argue Jesus Christ was a MGTOW.
    Einstein’s marriage contract (terms) was MGTOW to the core.

    MGTOW 1853

    MGTOW 1856

    MGTOW 1886

    MGTOW 1889

    MGTOW 1897

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #92136
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    Colonel Klink
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    “preserving your sovereignty”

    Very true, Key. Petitioning feminists, White Knights and Manginas for men’s liberation is akin to a slave asking permission from the plantation owner to be freed. It ain’t gonna happen.

    Seize it. It’s rightfully ours.

    #92171
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    Tim Patten
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    I’ve made these suggested changes. Thank you.

    #92178
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    Felix
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    Please help criticize this. Help make it something we ‘mostly’ all agree with:

    I guess your the one that has decided to define the MGTOW narrative.  Good Luck With Your Book………….

    more throttle ..... less brakes.....

    #92194
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    Tim Patten
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    I am finishing a book right now, NON MGTOW. And have begun a new MGTOW book. I think the title will be:  The MGTOW Millionaire.  I’ll see once my current novel is published. Thank you

    #92208
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    Keymaster
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    Here’s a MGTOW BILLIONNAIRE:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/homeless-billionaire-nicolas-berggruen-curious-783353

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #92215
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    Felix
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    The MGTOW Millionaire.

    Excellent Point!   TV, Radio, Discussion Panels, Arguments with Feminists.  I can hear the cash registers running already.

    more throttle ..... less brakes.....

    #92236
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    Felix
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    MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) – The modern men’s liberation movement

    How could you make the mistake of thinking MGTOW is a ‘movement’.  If you had spent any time reading Topics, Replies or watching Videos you would have heard the statement that MGTOW is not a ‘Movement’, ‘Group’  or ‘Men Rights Activists’.  If you had even read anything posted in the last three days you would have learned that MGTOW is more of a phenomena.  Yet you miss the mark straight out of the chute with a HEADLINE no less!

    Instead, you decide to post some boiler plate assumptions in a Topic and ask the members to ‘edit it’ for your cut and paste novel.

    more throttle ..... less brakes.....

    #92283
    Anonymous
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    I wouldn’t put the book about cheating on there. I don’t believe in cheating, no matter how justified. I never will.
    It’s a personal choice and has nothing to do with MGTOW.
    Women can justify their cheating just as easily.

    #92411
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    Anonymous
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    @ Tim Patten

     

    Me thinks you are sitting on the fence sir, protecting your own interests.

    Additional: and you want what ? . . . .do the research for you as well as being lab rats ?

    #92489
    Tim Patten
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    Thank you again for these suggestions.

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