Now that women hold most of the debts, now the pleas for debt forgiveness begin

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  • #899905
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    I f~~~ing told you this is exactly what would happen.

    Most debt is held by women. Particularly women who got worthless college degrees in worthless fields, who amassed hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. Plus also having no fiscal responsibility whatsoever comtrolling their emotional impulse spending natures.

    Now the cries for debt forgiveness begin from cuckolds and manginas and white knights and simps. And women, who, of course, blame everyone else for being in massive personal debt.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-06/america-needs-debt-jubilee

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #899906
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    ResidentEvil7
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    She’ll marry a guy with money who will pay off her debts (if she doesn’t continue to accumulate it), and then when that’s over, move on. Women are scammers!

    This is a man's world and we men must take it by the throat and make it give us everything we desire!

    #899908
    +8

    She’ll marry a guy with money who will pay off her debts (if she doesn’t continue to accumulate it), and then when that’s over, move on. Women are scammers!

    Nope. Its not working out that way as much anymore.

    Women wont date and marry men they feel are lower than they are, and they wont marry someone less well off than they are, they all need to at least have the potential to earn more than her. They have to be more attractive than her as well. And women only view 20% of men as attractive enough regardless of how ugly they are. They do of course marry for money but more guys are getting wise to being f~~~ed over, as many have already been divorce raped and had a lot of money and resources taken, and despite still worshipping pussy, they are not wanting to go through divorce rape again.

    Its obvious this straregy isn’t working like before because so many women, who dont need any man, have crushing debt and a s~~~ty degree that won’t get them a job with a salary that will ever get them out of debt. So the mantra is now shifting into ‘lets start forgiving debt’. The main reason is to forgive the massive and overwhelming debt that women have amassed and cannot repay with their worthless degrees and careers in junk fields. Plus of course having no personal restraint in spending on mountains of worthless consumer s~~~ they don’t need, but want and buy on emptional impulse to feel good.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #899909
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    Branched off
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    Yes this is very true not just on the personal debt level where women cause most of the debt to men as well as run most of it up themselves. It is even more true on the national level where the countries of the west are all massively indebted because of having to pay for so much welfare -most of which goes to women and a massive administration of clerical workers (another typically female job) who have to make sure that the money gets taken off those who earn it, given to the state and re-distributed “fairly”. The only way you can have your “strong independent women who need no man” is if the state pays instead. The state has been paying for too long now and like a good little beta the state is starting to buckle under the load.

    When beta breaks down under debt, he just gets declared bankrupt and pumpkin moves on. The state is a bigger problem and it is quite possible that we may someday see a world wide call for an amnesty on debt. The nations of the west may view it as the only way to save their arses.

    The fact is the states have no money already. Its all credit notes and they are even tying to take those worthless credit notes from our hands so they can have total control of credit digitally.

    the truth is you are just a drudge belonging to the state ad the state belongs to women. Freedom is impossible, only being a clever slave who avoids as much of the work and the punishments as possible.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #899913
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    Yes this is very true not just on the personal debt level where women cause most of the debt to men as well as run most of it up themselves. It is even more true on the national level where the countries of the west are all massively indebted because of having to pay for so much welfare -most of which goes to women and a massive administration of clerical workers (another typically female job) who have to make sure that the money gets taken off those who earn it, given to the state and re-distributed “fairly”. The only way you can have your “strong independent women who need no man” is if the state pays instead. The state has been paying for too long now and like a good little beta the state is starting to buckle under the load.
    When beta breaks down under debt, he just gets declared bankrupt and pumpkin moves on. The state is a bigger problem and it is quite possible that we may someday see a world wide call for an amnesty on debt. The nations of the west may view it as the only way to save their arses.
    The fact is the states have no money already. Its all credit notes and they are even tying to take those worthless credit notes from our hands so they can have total control of credit digitally.
    the truth is you are just a drudge belonging to the state ad the state belongs to women. Freedom is impossible, only being a clever slave who avoids as much of the work and the punishments as possible.

    “The state” paying is “men” paying. Men pay rhe taxes over their lifetime, women collect far more than they pay in over their lifetime. Everything the state pays out is redistributing male earnings.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #899918
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    Carnage
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    Not my circus, not my monkeys.

    I will just chill out and warm up in the world fire.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #899937
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    Rumpole
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    Four years ago, my former fiancee had over $60,000 in credit card debt. She arranged an advance payment on her inheritance, paid off the debt, and bought a new car.
    I have no doubt that she has new debts well into five figures.
    I was well into debt during my relationship with her. I gave her $4000 toward a car, and another $3000 for a computer, among other things. At its worst, it was over $7000. I finally ended up taking a early payment (with penalties) from my retirement savings to pay that off.
    My current credit card debt is about $300.00 on three cards. Half of that was a purchase of cigars for my birthday. I saved money for the cigars over the course of a year, and will off all the credit card balances next week.

    #899940
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    Bob Dylan
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    True Story !

    A few years ago, a ‘dozy cow’ lamented that she was being ‘forced’ into filing Chapter 7 bankruptcy !
    I’ll never forget her words, “It’s all their fault…they should have known that I couldn’t repay them”.

    A huge red pill !!!

    Where the hell does that kind of thinking come from ???

    ..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

    #899941
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    Awakened
    Awakened
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    Women CONSUME then they CONSUME some more, and this can only be finished off with a bit more CONSUMPTION!!!!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #899943
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    Gravel Pit
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    ….. If they forgive student loans… you will see an era of outright civil disobedience….

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #899945
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    Ranger One
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    People in power make unjust decisions because they don’t fear for their lives. People in power make decisions that benefit irresponsible women because there are no consequences to them for doing so.

    People in power and women in general never seem to suffer dire consequences; not so for the ordinary invisible male.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #899946
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    Gravel Pit
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    I actually went on a long rant.

    Im sick of being F%^&ed in life, paperfu.cked legally, imprisoned and labelled a felon for life (for being drunk when I was 22 and “evaded the police”)… for unauthorized absence and smoking weed after I CAME BACK FROM A WAR in Fallujah..receiving an Other than Honorable discharge, losing my right to the GI Bill, losing my right to vote or buy a weapon, losing my right to gainful employment in feilds I would do well in (SWAT or Police work) …

    So basically Im a sober, abled bodied 30-35 year old Male Vetran with weapons training … who is BARRED from many Rights I should have… SENTENCED TO LOW PAY SHI>T Jobs for life…. MEANWHILE Fat cun.ts get to have $50,000 student loans ERASED?!?!?! THese women make 3X what I make and have EVERY oppoutinity I dont! They are irresponsible as f&*^ with money! They dont deserve a god damn thing!!! Mean while, GOOD MEN are buys trying to put food in their mouth… their lives RUINED and their records PAPERFU^%ked into oblivion… NO WONDER MEN COMMIT SUICIDE AT 4x the rate women do! No WOnder VETS put a gun or a bottle of whiskey in their MOUTH.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #899948
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    Gravel Pit
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    Fuc.king bulls~~~ dude. Im telling you. It aint just me. If they do something gay like forgive student loan debts to these entitled RICH c~~~s that make giant salaries and have all the expensive toys and cars… YOU WILL SEE BLOOD IN THE STREET. You will see civil disobedience. That would be OVER THE LINE tyranny unlike the soft tyranny we already suffer under… once they go over the line… there will be consequences… not just from a few rebels… YOU WILL SEE NORMAL MEN ACTING OUT or ghosting the system.

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #899949
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    Habilis71
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    you make and pay… they take then don’t stay… just saying

    your dna dictates your need to approach women.... their dna dictates what they do when you arrive

    #899952
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    Ranger One
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    Fuc.king bulls~~~ dude. Im telling you. It aint just me. If they do something gay like forgive student loan debts to these entitled RICH c~~~s that make giant salaries and have all the expensive toys and cars… YOU WILL SEE BLOOD IN THE STREET. You will see civil disobedience. That would be OVER THE LINE tyranny unlike the soft tyranny we already suffer under… once they go over the line… there will be consequences… not just from a few rebels… YOU WILL SEE NORMAL MEN ACTING OUT or ghosting the system.

    People with power don’t understand the fundamental fact that gasoline is cheap and that they and everything they own will burn with enough gasoline. I don’t know if there will be blood on the street, but I might actually enjoy the odor of burnt hair for a change.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #899957
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    Branched off
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    All this talk of civil disobedience is probably just being a bit too hopeful. We are not like other men. They are cucks and the gynocentric state has nearly already succeeded in making us serfs. White knights will probably just put the men who protest in jail and carry on paying their taxes to care for lazy entitled women’s debt. Financial feudalism is only a decade or two away at the present pace. Some would say it is here already. Here maybe but it is not biting yet, one can still wriggle out of a lot of it now but when they take cash away and regulate gold trades, then financial freedom will be dead.

    Still I suppose we must hope.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #899960
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    you make and pay… they take then don’t stay… just saying

    wtf does that mean? I dont get it…

    I saw a woman the other day. I know this woman, she makes six-figures and has a Doctorate in some women’s educational field degree or some crap… Educational Admin field. SHE HAS IT ABSOLUTELY MADE. A house, a car, a loving husband, healthcare… ETC… And guess what she wants? Forgiven Student Loan Debt… and guess who she and and all the other entitled cun.ts will be voting for? WHoever offers psycho socialist shi.t like that….

    WOMEN’s GREED knows no bounds. They feel entitled to a starving man’s last piece of bread… that is how much avarice they have. They get paid 4 times what average men make YET STILL bitch endlessly about a “wage gap” that doesnt exist. There are men working ruthless hard labor jobs fixing engines, chopping line in 100 degree Texas Woods, constructing buildings and roads, making barely enough ($32,000 a year) to pay their rent and buy groceries. These ENTITLED CUN.TS make six-figures in an Air COnditioned Office and want their student loans forgiven>>>!>!>>!>!>

    OH FU.CK NO!!!!!!!!! OVER MY DEAD BODY!

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #899962
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    All this talk of civil disobedience is probably just being a bit too hopeful.

    I dont think so. I live in DFW. I was driving yesterday through Plano and North Dallas… thru the Mexican Neighborhoods that are very prevalent. Dozens of city blocks of nothing but Mexican businesses and housing. THese areas comprise over half of the metroplex. They exist in ALL cities of DFW. The Mexican Demographic ALREADY outnumbers the White vote. They are poor, hardworking, Catholic and they pay attention… trust me. They are looking out for THEMSELVES… not anyone else.

    When you go off and do a thing, LIKE FORGIVE Billions of dollars of Fat Entitled White Girl’s Student Loans… while fuc.king Mexican families are barely getting by on Tortillas and low pay construction jobs… EXPECT normal people to get p~~~ed.

    Forgiving Student Loans would cause REGULAR people.. (not red pilled or Tradcon groups) Normal people will flip their shi.t

    You can't sell a man on what he learned to live without.

    #899965
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    Beer
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    I don’t even think this is a male vs female issue…its a matter of rewarding poor decisions and punishing good decisions, which is the exact f~~~ing opposite of what any society should want to do.

    I know people who didn’t go to college and got into careers like trades or driving truck because they didn’t want to pay for college.

    I know people who served in the military to get their college paid for.

    I know people who worked and went to school part time so they could pay as they go.

    I know people who took s~~~ty jobs because they offered tuition reimbursement.

    I know people who commuted rather than live on campus because it cuts the price in half.

    I also know a lot of people who lived on campus for 4 years and got a lot of student loans but they also got a worthwhile degree and don’t complain about paying their student loans back or think they should be forgiven.

    Why should any of those people be responsible for other people’s student debts after they actively made decisions to minimize their own student debts or responsibly pay them back? Personally if I could go back in time and put all the money I paid for college into my 401k instead knowing college debt would get wiped I’d probably have put about 50k into it and watched it grow into 150k by now. Would I get anything for being a millennial that already paid for his college? Nah…I’d just get f~~~ed.

    Who benefits? I’ve got a neighbor that lives in her own apartment,drives a brand new car, and goes on at least 1 week long vacation yearly. She’s a teacher, probably making around 60-70k and does nothing all summer when she could pick up a side hustle for a few months. She could easily cut her expenses by 750+ a month if she got a room mate, bought a reliable used car for 1/3 the price of a new car, and cut out the vacations for a few years. She could easily up her income by 5k or more even by something simple, like waiting tables in the summer. In other words…with some minimal life changes and a few sacrifices for a few years she could pay her student loans off with no problem, but she doesn’t want to. Its people like her that would benefit.

    In the end if the problem is the cost of college has been outpacing inflation by large amounts for many years now…the problem that needs to be fixed is the cost of college. Long term if we were to wipe all student loans right now we just end up in the same boat in the future, and I’d guarantee if we wiped student loans once all future student’s would borrow as much as possible and pay back as little as possible just waiting for the next round of debt forgiveness…which would make things even worse.

    #899979
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    IMickey503
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    Start by eliminating the ENTIRE WELFARE STATE. All of it.

    I’m Desperately trying to stick to the subject despite personal feelings and urge to banter on the article written by smart man, with the worst photo ever to be posted publicly. There was Duck face….And then… There was this…

    The article is referencing 2300 years ago. A stable society you say? What an ingenious idea! Mr. Roberts states in the summary of his article:

    In America today the population is drowning in unpayable debts—student loan debt, credit card debt, home mortgage debt, state and local government debt, and business debt—but policymakers have reserved forgiveness only for the debt associated with the bad and irresponsible investments of the big banks and financial institutions. The Federal Reserve printed $4 trillion to buy up the banks’ bad debt while permitting ten million homeowners to be foreclosed. Student loan debt prevents university graduates from forming independent households. Mortgage and credit card debt prevents households from having discretionary income with which to drive retail sales. But modern day economics has no prescription for preventing our society from failing from debt overload.

    America long ago lost its independent farmers to debt overload. All it took was a drought, or a dustbowl, or the Fed driving up interest rates on loans, and farmers were foreclosed and the farm properties passed to corporate farming. Today the same thing is happening to dairy producers. Canada’s response to Trump’s tariffs is to place tariffs on US dairy products. The earnings drop leaves American dairy farmers overburdened with debt service. This business, too, seems destined to be concentrated in a few hands. Economic independence is being driven out of American society.

    The problems of monopoly, monopsony, oligopoly are real. Especially so when indebted Americans have their high productivity, high value-added jobs offshored and then face robotics displacing the lower paid domestic service jobs that are their current employment. The profit maximizing activities of corporations reduce Americans’ incomes but not their debts. Thus, debt service becomes more difficult.

    In the US today we have a situation in which the New York banks control Federal Reserve policy and financial legislation—the deregulation of the banking system and its subsequent bailout, for example. We have a situation in which monopolies, monopsonies, and oligopolies are stronger than the central government, which is unable to rein them in or act against them in any way. Corporations dispossess citizens of their jobs by offshoring the jobs. Creditor demands prevent university graduates from forming households. Debt service preempts retail demand except by further debt expansion.

    ——Clearly, Hammurabi did far better for the Babylonians than Washington can do for Americans.

    The wind in my sails
    in the river of Patience
    has just;
    run aground!

    This is an economy headed down, not up.


    Some would say the economy is on its knees.

    Clearly, Hammurabi did far better for the Babylonians than Washington can do for Americans.


    Clearly…

    In the US today we have a situation in which the New York banks control Federal Reserve policy and financial legislation—the deregulation of the banking system and its subsequent bailout, for example. We have a situation in which monopolies, monopsonies, and oligopolies are stronger than the central government, which is unable to rein them in or act against them in any way.
    Corporations dispossess citizens of their jobs by offshoring the jobs. Creditor demands prevent university graduates from forming households. Debt service preempts retail demand except by further debt expansion.


    As Mahatma Gandhi famously said: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    The problems of monopoly, monopsony, oligopoly are real. Especially so when indebted Americans have their high productivity, high value-added jobs offshored and then face robotics displacing the lower paid domestic service jobs that are their current employment. The profit maximizing activities of corporations reduce Americans’ incomes but not their debts. Thus, debt service becomes more difficult.


    “..You had ONE JOB…”

    America long ago lost its independent farmers to debt overload. All it took was a drought, or a dustbowl, or the Fed driving up interest rates on loans, and farmers were foreclosed and the farm properties passed to corporate farming. Today the same thing is happening to dairy producers. Canada’s response to Trump’s tariffs is to place tariffs on US dairy products. The earnings drop leaves American dairy farmers overburdened with debt service. This business, too, seems destined to be concentrated in a few hands. Economic independence is being driven out of American society.

    Ahem… If you are going to SPEW BULLS~~~, Might want to see who your audience is.

    ……..The U.S. has obtained a favorable quota and, as a result, exports more dairy products to Canada than it imports from Canada. In 2017, Americans sold $792 million in dairy products to Canada, while Canadians sold $149 million in dairy products to the U.S., creating a tidy trade surplus for the U.S. of nearly $650 million.

    Second, Canada only imposes high tariffs on imports above the quota, not on all the dairy products U.S. producers sell to them. For example, Canadian tariffs on dairy products within the quota are often zero and never more than a few percent. Above the quota, tariffs on dairy products range from 200 percent to over 300 percent. As a practical matter, no dairy products are sold to Canada outside the quota, so no U.S. exports really pay a high tariff.

    Second, take a LOOK at this graph. This s~~~ has been falling for a LONG TIME>

    Instead of spending 50 fuc.k.ing million dollars on MENTAL Health care for farmers so you GUARANTEE men to kill themselves. How about Blow jobs! Farmer has sally do the milking part episode 478. Not ONLY will you MAKE MONEY! But you can help women pay off their school loans the Natural way!

    Debt Overload? You mean kind of like how MEN who get bent over in divorce courts get “DEBT OVERLOAD”?

    I strangely did not see Divorce Rape “DEBT OVERLOAD”. Or Child support “DEBT OVERLOAD”. Or defending myself in court “DEBT OVERLOAD”…

    I am so confused as of late. Is Paul trying to tell me that BANKS don’t know how to do their jobs? Are you telling me banks are loaning money to women who can’t pay it back? Is Paul suggesting that the BANKS are RESPONSIBLE for giving out LOANS to people DID NOT CHECK THE CREDIT RATING OF ALL AMERICANS? Is Mr. Roberts Suggesting that Credit worthiness & Value of women in general may be in Jeopardy?

    Could P.C.R. even be alluding to the colleges and the states and the Government’s entities like N.O.W. ; Laws like Affirmative Action ; Gender Quotas, and women in the workforce are not able to turn their degree into the Tranz-Lesbian-Dynamo QUALITY
    BOARD CERTIFIED EDUCATION into REAL WORLD DOLLARS? SIr, SIR.. SIR!!! I SAY! Your f~~~~~ry is quite exquisite!

    To think that anyone could accuse without any proof the BOARD of EDUCATION of such Ill’s simply is just Flatulence of the tongue!

    That’s about as NICE as I can put Paul’s article.

    A BIG WET FART.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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