Remarriage. "Any man can make mistakes…

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  • #616400
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    I am working on my power panel with the power still turned on. I accept the risks but I have a prenup that will protect me.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #616427
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    OldBill
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    I also got to see their kids. That might be the reason for the way I am feeling today.

    You can have kids with a surrogate, Gambit. You don’t need to import some semi-literate village girl from the back of beyond with the hopes she doesn’t turn into a Kardashian within a decade.

    Hell, compared to most of us here you alone have the money needed to have kids with surrogate.

    Why aren’t you researching that option?

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #616469
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    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
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    Gambit,

    You are going to play with fire and get burned. Pre-nups get thrown out all the time. Remember, you must disclose ALL your assets in the pre-nup. If you leave anything out, it can be thrown out. In NY, pre-nups used to be iron clad. Yet, in 2013 one was thrown out because the wife said, with zero proof, that the husband would throw out the pre-nup in 10 years. She received about half of his 20 million dollar real estate empire. What did she do for it?
    Pop out two kids. That is some payday. Yes, you can protect your assets by one and only way was the way I did it. Transfer ALL assets, everything, into a irrevocable trust and not touch one dime. That was what I did and I kept every penny. She lied about the knowledge of it, even though we discussed this multiple times. She also lied on a court document. Didn’t matter, she couldn’t touch anything. Plus, it was a very short marriage, so no division was really warranted.

    However, the emotional and phycological stress you will go through if you do divorce is possibly even worse. I will be lying to you if during the heat of the divorce suicide didn’t pop into my head multiple times. However, I was strong enough to pull myself out of it. I know two docs who lost everything in a divorce and jumped off of the GW bridge in the last five years immediately after the divorce decree.

    If you MUST have an agreement, go for a domestic partnership. There is no asset division within that type of an agreement.

    I will leave you with the following to consider. IT’S ALL AN ACT. They are incapable of loving a man like a man loves a woman. Once a situation no longer benefits a woman, they have no problems in leaving. Unless you really hate assets, financial stability, not worrying about food and that nice Ferrari you have; don’t get married. You are just asking for misery and hell…. Eventually every man pays the piper in one way or another.

    #616476
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    Ghost
    ghost
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    You can have kids with a surrogate, Gambit. You don’t need to import some semi-literate village girl from the back of beyond with the hopes she doesn’t turn into a Kardashian within a decade.

    Hell, compared to most of us here you alone have the money needed to have kids with surrogate.

    Why aren’t you researching that option?

    I am seriously considering that as a Plan B. I even mentioned it last night to my friend and his wife. I said I would most likely go with the surrogacy option if Plan A never materializes the way I want it to.

    I think Plan B is definitely the more likely scenario.

    His response BTW was you don’t need to do anything. Just keep doing what you’re doing now. He said this in front of his wife and she almost nodded to it. I think there is a lot of stuff behind the scenes which most men like me are unaware of.

    #616478
    Ghost
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    I will be lying to you if during the heat of the divorce suicide didn’t pop into my head multiple times.

    I understand but what if I will commit suicide as a lonely bachelor one day? That is my concern.

    #616481
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    Anonymous
    30

    I will be lying to you if during the heat of the divorce suicide didn’t pop into my head multiple times.

    I understand but what if I will commit suicide as a lonely bachelor one day? That is my concern.

    Oh man, just oh man.

    #616492
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    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
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    I will be lying to you if during the heat of the divorce suicide didn’t pop into my head multiple times.

    I understand but what if I will commit suicide as a lonely bachelor one day? That is my concern.

    Doubtful. The men who committed suicide always stated it was due to the inability to financially support themselves and what they’ve built has now been destroyed. Their kids are still alive, but the $$$ given was what destroyed them. This is a money centric world now. One cannot survive w/o money in this day and age. You can try to live off the land like Mick Dodge. However, even he goes to town and stays with someone when the weather is bad.

    I wrestle with this as well. However, I am more afraid of losing what I’ve spent 20 + years building then a wife/children. Reason being, a woman can be replaced, $$$ made in the past cannot. Children will be there one way or another. I can see me going the surrogate route in the coming years. I am just too afraid to risk a divorce again; not to mention the risk of STDs. Most women lie. My ex-wife did and one of the women I was dating did as well. Modern women cannot be trusted.

    Let me break down my #’s for you.

    Married 2.5 years
    Legal bills: 22k (rounded)
    Wedding gifts/money handed over: $10k
    Medial insurance paid for her during divorce process: 8.5k
    Filing fees and serving fees: 500.00
    Our Furniture given to her as a “gift” from me: 3k
    Cops to be present while she was moving crap out: 1k
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    Just to get rid of her: 45000

    Cost for new furniture/tv/etc.: $4.5k

    Yet, I said it isn’t working. We can dissolve this marriage for $200.00. I prepared the paperwork, paid the fees and presented her the documents. She threw them back at me. She also incurred the following:

    Legal bills: 10k
    Relocation / rent fees: 5.4k
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    Total OOP she paid: 15400 + whatever new crap she bought for her little apt.

    This is what you are going to be dealing with IF you divorce. If with children, it’ll will be REALLY bad. I mean bankruptcy bad. Some tell me I was lucky.

    So, to recap, a woman, which I was with for 8 years, rather financially hurt both of us in the tune of $45k for me and at least 15k for her INSTEAD of just signing a document for $200; which I already prepared and paid for.

    Why would you voluntarily put yourself through this?

    One more thing… What makes you think marriage will make you happy? I know plenty of married men. I see pics of their kids on their desks at work, yet none of their wife. Why do you think this is? They want the kids, not the wife. They cannot leave the wife as they will lose everything they’ve built up.

    If you want to have kids, go through the surrogate route and hire nanny’s to help you out with raising the kid (s). Far cheaper than a nagging wife which will divorce you in time (statistically speaking). If you own a Ferrari, you can afford the surrogate fees. Your semen is injected into the female cum depositary surrogate at a medical office. It is YOUR child. It’s like getting all of the good things (offspring) without the liabilities (wife/mother).

    #616493
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Here are recaps of two conversations I’ve had with two different married women:

    Oh f~~~. When I meet broads like this, they are toast. I like to leave them teary eyed and sorry they even opened their mouth on the topic.

    You should get married and have kids.

    “You should aim higher in life”.

    Well at least find a woman who loves you.

    “Why are you behaving like that’s up to ME?”.

    You just find the crazy/bad ones.

    “Don’t make your craziness MY problem. It’s not like you girls walk around with a “beware of crazy” sign around your neck. But you probably should. “.

    That doesn’t mean you have to stop searching.

    “Is that a proposal? Where’s the ring? Since I don’t know you, it had better be NICE. Minimum 5 carats and up. And when you KNEEL DOWN to ask me for permission, don’t wear s~~~ty jewelry that looks like it came from a cracker jack box….. or I will begin making plans to divorce you, sell it on eBay, and only leave you with the mini-van.”.

    ( this is when they get really uncomfortable )

    So sorry to hear about your divorce, but these things happen

    “No sweetie. EARTHQUAKES happen. BRAIN TUMORS happen. Divorce doesn’t happen. You MAKE it happen.”.

    hopefully you can learn a lesson from it and move forward.

    “Oh you’re one of those “move forward kind” of crazies. You don’t care what damage you do. You just wanna move forward.”.

    ( give it right back to her )

    Surely there is some OTHER lesson?

    “Don’t call me Shirley. You may call me SIR. Here endeth the lesson.”

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #616522
    Ghost
    ghost
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    Your semen is injected into the female cum depositary surrogate at a medical office. It is YOUR child. It’s like getting all of the good things (offspring) without the liabilities (wife/mother).

    My mother advises against this. She thinks the child will be challenged and so will I as a result.

    #616554
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    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
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    2946

    Your semen is injected into the female cum depositary surrogate at a medical office. It is YOUR child. It’s like getting all of the good things (offspring) without the liabilities (wife/mother).

    My mother advises against this. She thinks the child will be challenged and so will I as a result.

    As does mine, however, they never had to fight family court nor do they have to deal with today’s women. Plus, shock, they are not men. Do not let another person (family or otherwise) try to pursued you into their type of thinking. In the end, when they are gone, you (and I) will be holding the bag.

    I am dropping first hand knowledge on you from my first hand experience. Laying it out for you to do with as you wish. I hope, for your sake, you listen and choose wisely. You can run any and all tests on the woman to see if she has any risks for the child to have autism and those other pesky genetic abnormalities. You just need a young FCD and you should be okay. It’s a s~~~ty world we live in. You need to look after yourself first, no on else.

    Let me put it another way… If you cannot secure your life first, how can you secure your life for your offspring? Take care of yourself FIRST and everything else will fall into place.

    #616569
    Ghost
    ghost
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    You need to look after yourself first, no on else.

    Thank you. I am not pursuing marriage for anyone other than myself.

    #616606
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    Stealth
    Stealth
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    6100

    “No sweetie. EARTHQUAKES happen. BRAIN TUMORS happen. Divorce doesn’t happen. You MAKE it happen.”

    Keymaster, your responses are brilliant. This one I quoted is my favorite, since it is really true and the key element that everyone voluntarily glossed over during divorce: This was something SHE was DOING. TO ME. It was premeditated, strategic, and involved a ton of intentional work on her part in search of a new destructive reality she CREATED.

    Only one person in my entire divorce said, WTF? These things don’t just happen; they are intentional. What the hell does she think she’s trying to pull? That person was my local banker, a recently remarried widower, who was wearing fetish gear and trying to set me up with her daughter. She was the only one, my family included, who joined me in calling this shot for what it was.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #616869
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    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
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    For me personally, it is not a question of need but of desire and want. I think marriage can work for me if I find the right woman. A comprehensive prenuptial agreement will be a requirement. I have never been married before but I am still relatively young (lower 30s).

    I do not see myself dating her or pursuing a relationship prior to marriage as that route has never worked for me. It will most likely be done in traditional fashion, with religion playing a prominent role.

    The only fault in that logic is EVERY man who gets married thinks that. That’s where the “unicorn” concept came from. Society is littered with guys who tried just that, under that philosophy. Today’s wimmin are toxic. It’s not just western wimmin either. And the unfortunately reality is, western female thinking is spreading into the east.

    Let’s say you found some diehard, religious tradcon who will stick to the script of Islam. Are you going to keep her locked up in the house all day to avoid contact with other females? You know realistically that won’t happen. She’ll eventually get with western thinking females, and her brain will be corrupted. Then you’ll be back to square one. Unlike a lot of guys, you have a LOT of resources to lose. They have a lot to gain by putting a ring on their finger from you.

    Prenups are no guarantee. Once she takes half your stuff, and leaves you making payments, you’ll be here again. I know there’s still some blue pilling thinking in your brain. I get it. I think it’s partially because you’re being influenced by your blue pill family. You know what the end result will be. You know this! Everybody else like Matrix and others know this too. Which is why they’re trying to talk you out of this. Once the ring goes on their finger, your freedom goes away. So do what little friends you have left.

    #616874
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    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
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    Your semen is injected into the female cum depositary surrogate at a medical office. It is YOUR child. It’s like getting all of the good things (offspring) without the liabilities (wife/mother).

    My mother advises against this. She thinks the child will be challenged and so will I as a result.

    No offense, but your family are blue pilled people advising you on this stuff. They’re trying to draw you back to the plantation by giving you bad personal life advice. Your mom wants you to settle down, have a family and be a good little simp. She’s been trying to guilt trip you, and your brothers into this. But then, you know this because you told us yourself.

    A good virgin from another country will become Westernised and cheat to see what she’s been missing.

    That is a possibility. In that case, I will end up divorced and walk away forever.

    What part of ‘marriage contract’ are you not getting.

    I will sign the best possible contract I can. If the terms are not acceptable to me, I will never sign it.

    Wimmin are not held accountable to ANY agreement you make with her. That’s the part you don’t understand. Men, however are most certainly held accountable. You sign that contract, and no matter what terms you institute, you will always be on the losing side of the deal. They have an out, they get all the cash and prizes, and they’re the ones who ALMOST always do the filing. She has an out, you do not. Your best bet is not to sign the contract at all.

    #616877
    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
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    You need to look after yourself first, no on else.

    Thank you. I am not pursuing marriage for anyone other than myself.

    How does this help you?

    #616878
    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
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    2946

    Brother… Watch and listen.

    #616881
    Ghost
    ghost
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    How does this help you?

    I would like to have a family. I have a strong desire for it. I do not want to be old and regret not at least trying it. I may need some more time alone but this is how I feel right now from time to time.

    There are some girls from wealthy families who I have access to through certain connections. This will ensure I don’t get divorce-raped. She will be young, a virgin and family-oriented.

    #616950
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    Fr Jack
    Fr Jack
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    928

    I will just say, that whatever way you decide to go, I know that I and everyone else here would wish you only the very best.

    #617040
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    Anonymous
    30

    How does this help you?

    I would like to have a family. I have a strong desire for it. I do not want to be old and regret not at least trying it. I may need some more time alone but this is how I feel right now from time to time.

    There are some girls from wealthy families who I have access to through certain connections. This will ensure I don’t get divorce-raped. She will be young, a virgin and family-oriented.

    Gambit,

    Let’s say you’re so wealthy that even in divorce rape you’ll still have half your wealth and be ok.

    BUT,

    Your purpose is to have children you can love and care for, and bring up to be decent human beings.

    So divorce rape or not, she can still take your kids from you because they are HER kids. This society doesn’t view it any other way.

    But I’ll get a good lawyer you say. One who will get me half custody.

    So, now they are with a c~~~ half the time being poisoned against you.

    AND,

    If she really wants you out the picture 911.

    Game Over.

    You lose them.

    And even if you fight it precious years will roll by in the legal battle.

    Having children with ANY women in this modern world is INTENIONALLY entering the gates of hell as you WILL suffer divorce rape.

    Even worse the loss of your children which WILL make you suicidal.

    Don’t ever let a c~~~ have that kind of control over your life.

    You will NEVER be the same again.

    Another thing, a young family oriented virgin will only last 5 minutes in our world.

    The HIVE will eat her ALIVE.

    You won’t even recognise the creature she becomes once they’ve assimilated her.

    Yes, it’s all THAT bad and then some.

    #617228
    Ghost
    ghost
    Participant

    If she really wants you out the picture 911.

    Game Over.

    You definitely don’t sugar coat anything.

    You will NEVER be the same again.

    Another thing, a young family oriented virgin will only last 5 minutes in our world.

    The HIVE will eat her ALIVE.

    You won’t even recognise the creature she becomes once they’ve assimilated her.

    Yes, it’s all THAT bad and then some.

    You are right.

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