Single mothers raising psychopaths will end civilization.

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  • #905056
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    Ironheart
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    The part of this study that is missing is that a large number of single mothers are toxic people. That is why they are single. They cannot handle relationships, much less raising a child in a effective way.

    The problem children they produce are quick to switch to criminality because they do not understand a need to stay away from it. No positive male influence leads to a child used to torturing his own mother psychologically in order to practice the psychotic tendencies the child develops. This is how these kids perfect the manipulation, viciousness, and narcissism that defines their privilege based personalities.

    I see this every day with the kids my current gf and former exes raised. I was not allowed to influence or parent them when they got older because I was a “retro-man”. Which means I understood the need for enforcing respect for parents, self-discipline, responsibility for ones own actions, and how to be organized and goal directed.

    When a man tries to bring anything positive to the equation, the women go berserk. If the kid gets it and likes the man, the woman will kick the man to the curb. If the kid hates the man (because the child is not the spoiled center of the biological parent’s attention) then the child goes on rampages and tantrums even when a late teen. The levels such psychopathic kids will sink to destroy the lives of the parents is off the scale.

    Yeah the women are responsible for the mess they created. But they will never admit it.

    The parents have fight after fight, after fight. The little c~~~~~~~~~ soaks it up every time we fight, with a smile of glee.

    I see so many single women raising a generation of serial killers and abusers. They will blame the men for this. Never the mothers.

    Wait until junior grows up and gets a uniform, gun, or position where they have power. Yeah this civilization is dead inside of two generations.

    Mothers who are psycho

    "Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

    #905057
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    FunInTheSun
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    When a man tries to bring anything positive to the equation, the women go berserk.

    That’s because these women haven’t progressed to adulthood (mentally). So we can’t expect them to raise children to be functional adults. For some women, children are just household accessories to brag about to “the hive.”

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #905058
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    Lord Humungus
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    I can sorta see this with my 13 year old niece! My sister and BIL got married for all the wrong reasons. And surprise they are currently getting divorced. They are both horrible people! And my niece is the personification of the both of them.

    #905062
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    The problem isn’t single mothers.

    The problem is the welfare state that permits and provides for them.

    Cut off the welfare and the problems created by single mothers all go away.

    #905065
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    Stealth
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    Beautiful post.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

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    Sidecar has made a good point here. The culture that makes the irresponsible women who is incapable of maintaining a relationship into someone who can live well and reproduce successfully without a stable relationship has actually favoured the bad traits these women have. The worthless men they get knocked up by (because the better men know better) add to the bad gene pool and so each generation becomes more mentally and socially incapable.

    There is not such thing as a strong independent woman. Trying to artificially create one (who is in truth dependent on the big father state) is actually making millions of less capable people to be born.

    The state of our schools shows the problem. They can’t teach the children properly anymore because so many have behaviour issues that (with the very limited tools of coercion that the modern state permits) they can’t make the class shut the f~~~ up and listen. These people are not fit for employment.

    For a time I participated in a program where employers took these scrap heap kids on for no pay for 3 months to try to get them “work ready” (That was honestly the term). The kids got slightly more benefits for doing this. Since they were not paid one was not hard on them and did not push them. I simply said “turn up every day unless you are really ill and I will write you a good reference at the end of it”. I had 6 of them one after the other I think. The first one I chose simply because he was likable. His mother had died and he was raised by his father. He finished the program. I gave him a bike so he could ride to work and he got a job. When I see him in the street he still tells me it was the best thing he ever did. This made me feel good and I tried with the next five (children of single mothers). Not one could even stick 3 months. I didn’t sack them. I didn’t ask them to work harder. They just could not be arsed and stopped coming to work. Then one stole some of my kit I had lent him to practise with. So I refused to take any more. They are not broken so much as never made right to start. I didn’t want to admit it but they are useless to society and could not be saved because they lacked the ability to want to try for anyone, even themselves.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #905076
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    Gravel Pit
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    dang Branch! yer a good person. I work in a part of town that is slummy, lots of beggars and people down on their luck (mostly permanently down by choice, or like you said, they were never right from the start).

    I used to try and help people alot. Never got a damn thing out of it. I bought a bicycle for a guy once too. Hopefully he stays dry, so far so good but Im skeptical. Many times Ive bought lunch for people, done free work or given them free parts…

    I learned like you, VERY FEW are like that first kid! But some are worth the effort. Im still young myself. Ive helped men twice my age frequently. Some are after a better future and have Virtue and a Code but youre right, the other 6 are ne’erDOwells, baddies, and Not Right from the start.

    You can fix a broken man sometimes, I know because a man saved me. But you cant unbend one that was never straight to begin with.

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    dang Branch! yer a good person. I work in a part of town that is slummy, lots of beggars and people down on their luck (mostly permanently down by choice, or like you said, they were never right from the start).
    I used to try and help people alot. Never got a damn thing out of it. I bought a bicycle for a guy once too. Hopefully he stays dry, so far so good but Im skeptical. Many times Ive bought lunch for people, done free work or given them free parts…
    I learned like you, VERY FEW are like that first kid! But some are worth the effort. Im still young myself. Ive helped men twice my age frequently. Some are after a better future and have Virtue and a Code but youre right, the other 6 are ne’erDOwells, baddies, and Not Right from the start.
    You can fix a broken man sometimes, I know because a man saved me. But you cant unbend one that was never straight to begin with.

    I think you are right here mate. The welfare state does not distinguish between those who are down on their luck and need a helping hand and those who are incapable of being helped and will only take. This was the inherent weakness in what was otherwise an excellent idea to help people. They honestly thought that if they gave the people a helping hand they would all rise up. I think it came from misconceived ideas about humanity being something special (perhaps the “image and likeness of god”). They did not see that we are just hairless monkeys. The goodness in humanity came from the bad always being there in the background and people choosing to avoid it for the good of all. Take away the need to make good choices and bad ones multiply.

    I was not by nature a cynic about humanity. I have always been hurt by people who say I have a cold right wing attitude to humanity. One just can’t deny the truth of things. Liberal ideas were based on a misconception that ALL people inherently are good and want to choose good things. The good man chooses to be good (this is actually what is praiseworthy), he is not made that way.

    You are right not all people are broken and we should keep trying to help those we can. You are a good man. But also we need to stop trying to do the impossible. You can’t save them all. There can be no success without failure being a reality too. That is the driver of evolution.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #905103
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    The part of this study that is missing is that a large number of single mothers are toxic people.

    There are a few that didn’t choose to be single mothers – it does happen – but these days, that’s very few. Here in the UK, being a single mother welfare sponger is now the most popular career choice for young women.

    The problem children they produce are quick to switch to criminality because they do not understand a need to stay away from it.

    Nature vs nurture? The answer is both.

    Combining slut genes with Chad trash genes is not going to give a good result. This process has been going on for several generations. Add to that a society that rewards the scum, and you have the whole picture.

    No positive male influence leads to a child used to torturing his own mother psychologically in order to practice the psychotic tendencies the child develops. This is how these kids perfect the manipulation, viciousness, and narcissism that defines their privilege based personalities.

    She is no victim.

    The absence of a male influence means that the child is subjected to unrestrained female traits, ie the ‘manipulation, viciousness, and narcissism that defines their privilege based personalities’.

    A blank slate, the child acquires a female mindset and personality traits.

    I see this every day with the kids my current gf …

    ‘Current GF’? Put your lawyer on Speed Dial.

    Wait until junior grows up and gets a uniform, gun, or position where they have power.

    We are seeing this now in the form of SJW’s – mindless, violent, hate-filled fanatics.

    Yeah this civilization is dead inside of two generations.

    It is finished now.

    Women are one of the elites most potent weapons. They are too stupid too see that they too will be disposed of when they are of no further use.

    #905117
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    There is not such thing as a strong independent woman.

    Actually, there are. But they are ridiculously rare. And you’re not going to see one at the welfare office.

    Trying to artificially create one (who is in truth dependent on the big father state) is actually making millions of less capable people to be born.

    The government believes it can make “strong independent women” by making them dependent on the state. But then the government also believes it can make people “safe” by making them defenseless.

    The government is retarded.

    But not as retarded as the “strong independent women” who keep the government in power.

    This was the inherent weakness in what was otherwise an excellent idea to help people.

    But it’s not an excellent idea; It’s merely good intentions.

    And what do good intentions pave?

    #905118
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    Sidecar
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    This needs its own post.

    There are a few that didn’t choose to be single mothers

    BULLSH​IT!

    There may be some who didn’t choose to get pregnant, but ever since Roe v. Wade (which is over half a fu​cking century) not one of them didn’t choose to give birth.

    They have the “right to choose” to abort, which means every single birth was also a choice not to abort.

    Just because they don’t ever have to pay for their choices doesn’t mean they didn’t make them.

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    There are women who chose to get pregnant and to give birth but who did not choose single motherhood. There are widows and there are women disappointed by that apparently ubiquitous figure (according to feminist and liberal literature) -the worthless father who promised to stick around and then buggered off.

    It is a good idea to help such women avoid poverty by giving them some sort of charity as poverty can make women (bigger) whores and the lack of opportunities associated with poverty can raise up less educated children with chips on their shoulders. These do not make very useful citizens (like many of the urban gansta type kids)

    This is something society has known of for ages. Villages have always given charity to the unfortunate and deserving since the earliest times. The problem with the big state is that it is faceless and it grants rights not privileges. We can’t have a man making decisions over who is deserving because that is open to corruption so the state just gives everyone the same privilege as a right and then asks nothing in return for it. This means that the state has just created a feeding trough for any sow who wants a free meal.

    It is retarded. Allowing women to vote for such things was also retarded because they can’t help but vote in their own interests. They are too naturally selfish to do anything else. Women will keep the state a big generous cuck until it is broke. Then they will move onto something else for support (probably men again like they used to).

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #905124
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    EG
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    I have a solution: reinstate the draft.

    #905127
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    Gravel Pit
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    it came from misconceived ideas about humanity being something special (perhaps the “image and likeness of god”). They did not see that we are just hairless monkeys.

    my sentiments as well. hehehe

    I was not by nature a cynic about humanity

    for realz

    a misconception that ALL people inherently are good and want to choose good things. The good man chooses to be good (this is actually what is praiseworthy), he is not made that way.

    good stuff.

    As far as Single Moms who didnt choose the hand they were dealt. I agree with both Sidecar and Branched.

    IMO, women control when sex and births occur therefore it is exclusively their choice. But I have also seen a woman with a decent hand, get burned hard on the river cards.

    Its not often, its the exception to the overwhelming general trend, but my own cousin was a happily married good woman with two toddlers. Aint nothing wrong with her, shes sober and put out. But her husband was a dumbass and cheated on her and left her.

    I couldnt believe why a dude would spend a decade with a woman, build a world with her, produce humans with her, and just when its most important to be present and loving… totally reneges on the entire deal breaking the hearts and lives of those kids and that woman.

    As stated earlier, not all men are good. Some came out of the womb more crooked than a dog’s hind leg.

    Like the guy in the video said, you got a divorce for 1 of 2 reasons. Either that person was an asshole, or you are. It really is that simple. IMHO, its 85%+ WOMEN reneging on the deal. But the other 15% are dishonorable philandering, cowardly, ignorant, or despicable men.

    I know a guy, my age. hes black and married at 33 with a kid on the way with her. The kicker is that his wife, he got her when she was 21. Shes only ever been with him and two other guys… thats how many sex partners shes ever had, 3. They been together a decade! He has no idea how RARE his situation is for guys our age. He doesnt get it! And that is the problem, he thinks he can fvck around on her. I tried to explain things to him. He will probably fvck up a good thing with a woman that honestly gave him the best sex years of her life. She put in her time spoiling him.

    It just aint right. If she was mine… But its too late for me. No 21 year old girl is about to stay faithful to me for a decade, I was in solitary the whole time. I owe women Nothing

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    Its tough but men do often screw around. Its our programming -to reproduce widely if possible. We need a good reason to hold back that urge. I didn’t screw around until I was divorce raped, then had a manipulative and unfaithful high c~~~ count girlfriend (to whom I was entirely faithful). After that I just stopped believing in fidelity and decided I no longer saw any reason to be a good little beta any more. Irony is I also got a lot smarter at finding good loyal women. I hurt good women. Didn’t lose any of them but I did hurt them and women don’t forget. If I could undo the complex twists I have contorted life into, I would -even if just to get some peace from females.

    Women are not angels and men are not angels but woman has recently fallen so low that she is not worth man’s loyalty in most cases. This is bad luck for the few women out there who still want to play by the rules. The others deserve what they have shat onto the world.

    Don’t do yourself down Gravel Pit. You believe you have not met a woman who would be faithful to you if she was 21. Maybe you have not met such a woman but actually I bet you could get such a woman if you looked in the right places. It would take quite a bit of effort though because such women usually know their value, have family that need to be convinced and you would have to pay up old school blue pill style in terms of time and probably money too. You might also have to make some concessions culturally too -you would have better odds in other culture and to do this properly you would have to take the time to learn another culture Looking for Asian or Russian singles on line for example would be a disaster that would probably land you with a recycled whore. Going to a non cucked country for a few years, going off the tourist trial, getting real male friends in a village who respect you as a man and then approaching a local match maker for a girl from a good family might, however, get very different results. You could also invest time in religion and then in checking out all the families with suitable girls in your local network of churches to check for good family character but that takes both effort and a very high tolerance to religious bulls~~~.

    Western culture is broken thanks to its women. The wider world however is not broken nor are all their women worthless (though the west is doing its best to change this). When the west sinks another culture that has its women on side will come and take our lands if we are not able to turn things round fast.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #905150
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    Its not often, its the exception to the overwhelming general trend, but my own cousin was a happily married good woman with two toddlers. Aint nothing wrong with her, shes sober and put out. But her husband was a dumbass and cheated on her and left her.

    My ex’s nephew did the same thing to his wife. Now he’s with a skank.

    #905153
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    InTheCountry
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    Single mothers are disgusting entities. They are a 10 year old propped up on government support while the culture around them rewards them for their foul practice. They use children to garner dope bursts from facebook fans likes. For them, life is this strange cushioned tv reality show where people are immersed in the system’s programming. They think anyway who isn’t on board is a loser or suffering from autism.

    They all have multiple dating apps running concurrently whether in or out of a relationship to gather attention and play their games. They play games while hoping that one sucker will come along and be willing to hand control of their life over to her.

    Starve them to death of attention. They deserve suicidal grief and isolation.

    #905194
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    BULLSH​IT! There may be some who didn’t choose to get pregnant, but ever since Roe v. Wade (which is over half a fu​cking century) not one of them didn’t choose to give birth.

    I see your point, but we have to acknowledge that there are bad men, too.

    They have the “right to choose” to abort, which means every single birth was also a choice not to abort.

    That depends on whether or not they see abortion as murder.

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    There are widows

    Widows are not single mothers. That’s why they are called widows. It’s a special word just for them so they aren’t confused for single mothers.

    and there are women disappointed by that apparently ubiquitous figure (according to feminist and liberal literature) -the worthless father who promised to stick around and then buggered off.

    Again, BULLSH​IT!

    The “deadbeat dad” is a myth.

    Quite apart from the biological drive men have to raise their children, with the way society punishes and enslaves estranged fathers, if a man walks away from his children these days it’s only because she gave him no other option. Women file nine out of ten divorces, but when there are children involved, they file ninety nine out of a hundred.

    Also “promised”? Really?

    Spoiler: women lie. Women always claim men “promised” them things they want, especially when it absolves those women of their own choices. That doesn’t mean the men actually did.

    It is a good idea to help such women avoid poverty by giving them some sort of charity

    It’s not a good idea. It’s just more good intentions and wishful thinking. In reality it’s merely a counterproductive waste of wealth and resources.

    If a woman makes good, responsible choices, she can pull herself out of any poverty and keep herself out. If she makes bad, irresponsible decisions, no amount of charity will disimpoverish her. It will only subsidize her folly and encourage her to be more irresponsible.

    the lack of opportunities associated with poverty

    The association is not a causal once. And most of the time when someone talks about a “lack of opportunity”, what they mean is an abundance of excuses.

    can raise up less educated children with chips on their shoulders. These do not make very useful citizens (like many of the urban gansta type kids)

    A foolish, irresponsible woman will raise worthless children regardless of how much other people’s money you throw at her.

    Society is neither responsible, nor even capable of turning children into productive adults. Only parents and the children themselves can do that. So the responsibility for it lies with them, not society.

    This is something society has known of for ages.

    Society “knew” that the Earth was flat for ages, too. Society “knows” all sorts of myths. Society is full of well intended idiots who will believe any ridiculous canard that lets them feel good about themselves.

    Also, when you speak of society, you sound a lot like you’re actually speaking about The Hive.

    The plain fact is that decades and generations of welfare payments to “help” impoverished single mothers have only massively increased their numbers. It doesn’t work, and there is no way to make it work, because it is based on utterly false feel good premises.

    Villages have always given charity to the unfortunate and deserving since the earliest times.

    Actually, no. Utterly wrong, in fact.

    Societies have historically been extremely harsh on single mothers, shaming, castigating, and ostracizing them. Because villages couldn’t afford to subsidize their irresponsibility.

    The charity you describe is an extremely recent development only made possible by the massive surpluses from industrialization.

    Allowing women to vote for such things was also retarded because they can’t help but vote in their own interests.

    Letting women vote isn’t the problem. Not making them responsible for the consequences of their votes is. Men have social responsibilities that earn and justify their voting franchise. Men vote wisely because they have to deal with the results of their votes. Women have no social responsibilities whatsoever any more, so women vote like selfish idiots.

    I have a solution: reinstate the draft.

    For women only. Make them EARN their unfair and unequal voting privileges.

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    I see your point, but we have to acknowledge that there are bad men, too.

    But not responsible men. Only men held accountable.

    Whether good or bad, men do not have any right to choose. Women do. How can men be responsible for the choices of women?

    The problem is that men are made accountable for the choices of women, and women never are. Good or bad doesn’t come into it.

    It’s not about morality. It’s about MONEY. Specifically, her right to choose to take his money without his consent by forcing a child to be born into a life of being raised by a selfish, irresponsible single mother.

    That depends on whether or not they see abortion as murder.

    Whether or not it’s murder is also irrelevant. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s HER choice, and ONLY her choice. But it’s his responsibility to pay for her choice, and only his responsibility.

    Only when women are finally fully held to account for their choices, good or bad, murder or not, will they start to make better choices. And more importantly, they’ll start to make DIFFERENT choices. Like choosing to actually take their fu​cking birth control pills for a change.

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