Your Life Is Not Your Own

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  • #893384
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    Hermit
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    I was at the hangout last night and saw an old friend I hadn’t seen in years. He was telling me that since he got divorced, he gets along real well with his x and is still living with her. Says he gives her a thousand bucks a month and goes and does what he wants. We’re having a good time drinking beer, talkin’ about the old days and talkin’ about guns. His phone rings and I can tell by his responses that she’s asking him where he is and what’s he doing. He hangs up and says, “Well, gotta’ go.” I could tell he didn’t want to leave. He even told the gal when he ordered his food that he wasn’t in any hurry.

    We’re sittin’ there havin’ a good time and then his woman calls. He thinks that just because he’s not married to the woman he’s living with that he’s free. He obviously is not. I told him that I was gonna’ stay and leave when I decided it was time. I didn’t have some woman calling me asking about my business. I sat there doing what I wanted and went home when I wanted.

    Maybe he’s happy with his situation. Maybe he doesn’t mind having his good time interrupted by a phone call from his woman. He was miserable when he was married. He got divorced and escaped the prison, but then went back to live with her. What’s the difference? So he’s no longer legally married, at the moment. However, you live with someone long enough in this state, you are legally married. I guess he’s just trying to convince himself that it’s better now because he wants or thinks he needs this relationship.

    It doesn’t matter if you’re married, or just living with a woman, or even if you’re just in a relationship with a woman not living with you, YOUR LIFE IS NOT YOUR OWN. She will always have some form of control over you, or at least try to control you. I live alone and am not in any type of emotional relationship with any woman. My life is my own. I own it. I’m free. I’ll never go back to that life I had before where I didn’t own my life. Life is too good now. The freedom tastes too good to ever even consider going back to that prison.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #893395
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    MGTaoist
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    Lately I’ve been learning a lot about type A and type B personality theory. A lot of MGTOW are going to be type A, you don’t have to have the outward appearance of an ‘alpha’, but essentially that is what you are, because you WON’T submit to a woman. That is why relations~~~s are stressful and infuriating for a type A.

    A type B however is happy to be dominated, for the woman to wear the trousers. For this man the most important thing is to be liked and allowed to be in the relationship. The type A man cares more for truth, integrity, honour and fairness more than he does being liked. He will not submit to a woman and that is the source of the conflict in a relations~~~, because a woman ALWAYS seeks to control the man.

    A man with a type B personality and type A APPEARANCE is the dream guy for today’s woman.

    Your friend seems pathetic to me, however when we consider I am a type A man and he is a type B, I can cut him some slack for that is just the way he is (and the way I am).

    We spend a lot of time trashing men for conceding to the woman, however when we take into account the two very different (main) personality types, we can realise fighting it is pointless.

    You are already enlightened, but the mind is too chaotic to realize it. 

    #893398
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    Hermit
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    Your friend seems pathetic to me, however when we consider I am a type A man and he is a type B, I can cut him some slack for that is just the way he is (and the way I am).
    We spend a lot of time trashing men for conceding to the woman, however when we take into account the two very different (main) personality types, we can realise fighting it is pointless.

    I thought he was pathetic at first as well, but then I had to think that if he’s happy with his situation, then who am I to judge? Just because I’d be miserable in his situation doesn’t mean that he is.

    I don’t need or want a woman to take care of me, but maybe he believes he needs her to call him back home so he doesn’t spend all night at the bar getting drunk. Maybe he wants her to control him in that way. I can take care of myself and I’ll have fun with a few drinks and go home at an appropriate time without having someone tell me what time that is.

    Still, even if he is happy in his situation, it just doesn’t seem right to me, but again, it’s his life and he has to live it even if he doesn’t own it.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #893399
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    Narwhal
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    I don’t know much about these personality types, but if A= dominate and B = submissive, that brings up a question. Would a type A male be happier with a type B female?

    I would argue no. I think and A is going to have a hard time respecting and partnering with a B type personality. Modern society very much shuns dominate/submissive relationships, even when both people are happy in their roles. So the man maybe happy with his place, but will feel constant pressure to NOT lead at all times and defer to his wife. Outsiders of the relationship will claim he’s a bully, controlling his wife…the victim. At the same time, since men are pushed to not relate with other men, he will feel that peer level relations is missing from his life. A need to relate with other dominate types. He’s told that his wife should be all he needs, so he will naturally feel that he has the wrong wife.

    The female side will also be poisoned by outside influences. She’ll be told that she’s letting herself be bullied. She needs to have a career and not be satisfied with housewife. She should be a strong independent woman. So she’ll push to make decisions she is not prepared to make, letting husband take all the blame for the poor outcome of those decisions. She’ll resent him for it. And she’ll be tempted by the Chad who will dominate her the way she longs to be dominated. And she can have that feeling all the time, if she would only take the option of economic security through divorce.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #893401
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    Awakened
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    He got divorced and escaped the prison, but then went back to live with her.

    He didn’t “escape prison”. SHE just grants him occasional time off for good behavior, but when she beckons he comes a runnin!!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #893404
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    Hermit
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    He got divorced and escaped the prison, but then went back to live with her.

    He didn’t “escape prison”. SHE just grants him occasional time off for good behavior, but when she beckons he comes a runnin!!

    Isn’t that awful? I could not live like that and I have never lived like that, even when I was married, which is one of the reasons she kicked me outta’ the house. She tried and tried to control me and when she finally realized she couldn’t, she didn’t want me around anymore. That’s fine with me. I’m much better off now. Free and happy!

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #893421
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    MGTaoist
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    I don’t know much about these personality types, but if A= dominate and B = submissive, that brings up a question. Would a type A male be happier with a type B female?
    I would argue no. I think and A is going to have a hard time respecting and partnering with a B type personality. Modern society very much shuns dominate/submissive relationships, even when both people are happy in their roles. So the man maybe happy with his place, but will feel constant pressure to NOT lead at all times and defer to his wife. Outsiders of the relationship will claim he’s a bully, controlling his wife…the victim. At the same time, since men are pushed to not relate with other men, he will feel that peer level relations is missing from his life. A need to relate with other dominate types. He’s told that his wife should be all he needs, so he will naturally feel that he has the wrong wife.
    The female side will also be poisoned by outside influences. She’ll be told that she’s letting herself be bullied. She needs to have a career and not be satisfied with housewife. She should be a strong independent woman. So she’ll push to make decisions she is not prepared to make, letting husband take all the blame for the poor outcome of those decisions. She’ll resent him for it. And she’ll be tempted by the Chad who will dominate her the way she longs to be dominated. And she can have that feeling all the time, if she would only take the option of economic security through divorce.

    Nail on the head. See how our minds have been poisoned by the Marxists?

    Back along yes, a type A and type B would generally be the best match. But the Marxists are AGAINST NATURE, and so now it DOESN”T WORK. NOTHING WORKS! Unless the male submits to the woman. Which is only working SUPERFICIALLY.

    You are already enlightened, but the mind is too chaotic to realize it. 

    #893432
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    Gravel Pit
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    Great OP Hermit!

    A type B however is happy to be dominated,

    Wow, I really liked your comments too.

    She’ll be told that she’s letting herself be bullied. She needs to have a career and not be satisfied with housewife. She should be a strong independent woman.

    Yeah, this nailed it too, I think the MAJORITY of women are type B, but are SOLD a lot of “you’re type A” malarkey. Or even if she is type B with mild, occasional type A excursions… society tells her she needs to be type A, ALL THE TIME…

    My brother’s religious wife was making this point to me a few years ago, that she dislikes all the ‘feminists’ (3rd wave) and women telling her to be dominant. She wants to be a woman (1st wave?). I wish there were more women like her, with few bedpost notches — perhaps then I could get away with a 20 year marriage and some kids until we eventually split ways or who knows, carry on into retirement… But the reality is that her NAWALT attributes are not absolute, eventually it will wear off in her mid forties and she’ll turn on him.

    #893437
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    MGTaoist
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    6081

    Yeah, this nailed it too, I think the MAJORITY of women are type B, but are SOLD a lot of “you’re type A” malarkey. Or even if she is type B with mild, occasional type A excursions… society tells her she needs to be type A, ALL THE TIME…

    EXACTLY. Men are more type A but masquerading as type B, this is due to women now masquerading as type A (when really they’re more like type B), and men know they must capitulate to the woman OR IT WON’T WORK NOWADAYS.

    Nature has been turned on its head. BUT BY WHOM????

    You are already enlightened, but the mind is too chaotic to realize it. 

    #893459
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    Ranger One
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    Yeah, this nailed it too, I think the MAJORITY of women are type B, but are SOLD a lot of “you’re type A” malarkey. Or even if she is type B with mild, occasional type A excursions… society tells her she needs to be type A, ALL THE TIME…

    EXACTLY. Men are more type A but masquerading as type B, this is due to women now masquerading as type A (when really they’re more like type B), and men know they must capitulate to the woman OR IT WON’T WORK NOWADAYS.
    Nature has been turned on its head. BUT BY WHOM????

    By the .001% of men that are on top. They are trying to hold down potential competition to their future offspring. How many US presidents went though public schools and didn’t go to Ivy League schools?

    Those on top want to rule a land of serfs, and that includes whether they call themselves a D or an R.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #893474
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    MarketWatcher
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    Thank God I never got married.

    Thanks for the giant red pill. That is just sad.

    #893477
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    Hermit
    Hermit
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    Thank God I never got married.
    Thanks for the giant red pill. That is just sad.

    Oh no, it’ll probably be different for you. You go ahead, find you a nice gal and settle down and get married. Ms. Right is out there waiting for you to find her and she’ll make you very happy. Those of us who were, or are married are just bitter old crusty asses who aren’t good enough for those wonderful women.

    I have another friend who thought he had the most perfect woman any man could hope for and he was always bragging on her. Found out she was cheating on him and when he confronted her she pulled a knife on him and chased him around the house trying to kill him. Now, he’s married again, to the most perfect woman any man could hope for and he’s always bragging on her………….

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #893478
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    Gravel Pit
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    6733

    LOL

    ….the most perfect woman any man could hope for and he was always bragging on her. Found out she was cheating on him and when he confronted her she pulled a knife on him and chased him around the house trying to kill him. Now, he’s married again, to the most perfect woman any man could hope for and he’s always bragging on her………….

    #893510
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    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    If the call was “Dear, its Blow Job time” Then I would understand.

    Or “Dear, I need my Daily F~~~ing” Then I would understand.

    Or “Dear, I have my sister here and we want to f~~~” I would understand that too.

    The Blue pill kills a man slowly. Its the drug of choice for millions.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #893520
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    Princekie
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    Speaking from personal experience, I used to do gym a lot and my passion was cars. I spent nearly every weekend on my passion, not to mention weekends spent roaming the countryside and doing stuff like that.

    Then my ex came along.

    At first she played it cool. I cut down doing gym, gave up my hobbies and eventually gave up my free time. Eventually everything revolved around her.
    Now I have my freedom back. My time off work is quality time. I’m not spending time in boring shopping centres, department stores, design outlets and places where I DON’T want to be. Its amazing how your woman really is, in reality, your jailer.

    #893537
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    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    8748

    I’m not spending time in boring shopping centres, department stores, design outlets and places where I DON’T want to be.

    In all seriousness, this will be the most “Adult” I will be today.

    Women don’t really like going shopping. They just like the part that you are willing to buy them s~~~ that they don’t need. Just so they can impress the c~~~s around them. Talk about it at work, and to her friends and family.

    Women take you shopping so they can show you off at first. Then, as time goes by, they do it to s~~~ test you. And then a short time after that, its to make you jealous as they try to get attention from other men.

    When that no longer works, that is when the hell starts. They can’t figure out why they even want to go shopping. Nothing they find at the store fits them. You are no longer interested in draping her with clothes that make her look more like a Shamoo.

    So they ask you to buy bigger and bigger things that cover them up. The Large SUV. The Jewelry to show off to friends to cover up their ugliness.

    You can actually see it in all their profile pictures over time. When they are young, and pretty, full body shot. When its nothing but a head shot, you know you have reached that point.

    Some keep up the ruse with their girlfriends and other men telling them how “HOT” they are. Its all a mental mind f~~~. And they take it all out on you since YOU are suppose to be the person to put them in line. But you can’t. Not anymore. That is the trap. And once you go past that point, women are never the same.

    That switch from Nice girl to Bad BITCH of a miserable human being only take a bit of time. That is when they start actively cheating. And then ask you to buy and buy more until they stop. THen you worry. THey are buying and spending your money on Sexy clothes. Not for you. Douche’s, so they can clean out their stinky pussys. And Watch out for the razor and Nair purchases.

    Its all the same cycle. If you look at the data from their buying habits, its sick man. I hate f~~~ing even talking about it. But it’s almost all the same. With almost all women.

    And here is why MEN can’t do anything about it anymore. You have no control over what they are told by other men and women. It’s all the same.

    You are stuck in love with her, and you care. But that has LONG since been gone with her.

    When she is ready to eject you, and has used you up till you are now dried fruit, she will spit you out like you were nothing.

    Most men can not believe how badly they were used. And that is why, you NEVER go back.

    In fact, the happiest a woman can be is when she can’t get you. And believe me, if she is chasing after you, you better know she is not after you. She is after what you got. And what you can do for her.

    Think of women like Steven King’s Langoliers . All they do is eat every part of you till there is nothing left. All that past history, all those good times. All that love. It means nothing.

    You could be the best f~~~ she has ever had. It does not matter. TO her, its just new. TO her family, you are just another job.

    YOU have LESS value then Generic tampons to her. Even SHE will keep that box around. Not you. You as a man do not even measure up.

    Don’t buy women s~~~. Don’t think of women as worth anything. THEY ARE NOT.

    Women have no loyalty. They have no heart. And they have nothing a man needs to invest in. The happiest a woman is when she gets f~~~ like a rag doll and left at a bus stop so she can do it all over again.

    Don’t be that chump that goes after a girl. She has nothing for you but empty dreams, a lonely heart, and a sad life.

    All that time you missed sleeping, working your ass of in the cold, rain and heat. Nothing you did is going to make her any more affectionate for you in the future. She will DESPISE you for being a good man. And she will do anything to destroy you to bring you to her level.

    Most men get told, “Go f~~~ another women to get it out of your system”. What a joke. Men are not whores. Only women can do that.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #893579
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    Gravel Pit
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    6733

    At first she played it cool. I cut down doing gym, gave up my hobbies and eventually gave up my free time. Eventually everything revolved around her.

    straight up relate to this, thanks. My time is well spent today.

    Recently, and for the first time ever, a female in my extended family had to stay at my condo overnight. OH MY F~~~ING GOD!!! I will never let a woman move into my place. EVER! LOL. no way

    #893585
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    Hdvrod
    hdvrod
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    1080

    Lately I’ve been learning a lot about type A and type B personality theory. A lot of MGTOW are going to be type A, you don’t have to have the outward appearance of an ‘alpha’, but essentially that is what you are, because you WON’T submit to a woman. That is why relations~~~s are stressful and infuriating for a type A.
    A type B however is happy to be dominated, for the woman to wear the trousers. For this man the most important thing is to be liked and allowed to be in the relationship. The type A man cares more for truth, integrity, honour and fairness more than he does being liked. He will not submit to a woman and that is the source of the conflict in a relations~~~, because a woman ALWAYS seeks to control the man.

    Thank you for that MGTaoist. This was kind of like a wake-up moment for me in terms of understanding something that has bugged me my whole life. I just had my AHA!!! moment. This is why I’ve always had such difficulty in relationships, and why I could never put my finger on what the problem was. I have never been able to conform to a woman’s wishes if they didn’t perfectly align with mine. I was never a pussy beggar but I felt guilty and at amiss about why I couldn’t make relationships truly work. I felt there was something wrong with me like I was too selfish or, that I lacked a heart or that I just somehow didn’t have the ability to empathize with women’s needs. All along I thought that I just wasn’t cut out for relationships and I didn’t quite know why.
    Now it’s crystal clear; I just couldn’t play along with women’s whims and demands to the point that it was satisfactory for her. So subconsciously I was standing my ground and it deteriorated the relationship over time. Sometimes fast and sometimes over a longer period of time.
    Looking back, I wouldn’t want to have it any other way.

    Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

    #893587
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    Daryll55
    Daryll55
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    Type A… type B…. blah blah lbah…

    Why isn’t your friend calling her to make sure the dishes are done, the rugs are clean, etc etc.

    We ALL know how long that kind of relationship would last.
    He just another blue pill SIMP, only he’s giving up 1K/month for the “priviledge.”

    Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

    #893598
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    JB Books
    JB Books
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    2906

    You probably won’t be around him much, as his master will be cutting him off from all his frienda.

    We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

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